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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:12 AM   #41
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Would this have been the verdict if Clementi was filmed making out with a girl?


The better way to phrase that question is whether Ravi would have done what he did if Clementi had been making out with a girl. The jury decided there was sufficient evidence to indicate that Ravi's motivation was based on it being a same-sex encounter.



Good to see the conviction was on all 15 counts.




American "justice" has become the laughing stock of the western world



Still at least we now know that homosexuals trump people of colour in the hate crime rankings
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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #42
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The fact that Ravi didn't take a very sweet plea deal reveals a lack of remorse - he was convinced he didn't do anything wrong. That'll be a factor in sentencing.



Deportation proceedings are a federal issue and any deportation will occur after his state prison sentence has been served. But the fact of the state conviction for numerous felonies makes deportation very likely. Ravi could have avoided all of that by taking the plea bargain.



http://www.nj.com/ne...al_verdict.html


Because Ravi is a citizen of India, and is in the US on a green card, he could be deported following his sentencing. The US deports most criminals convicted of felonies, with the exception of thefts of amounts under $10,000.


I'll defer to your experience in hate crimes, felonies, and deportation. But the fact remains that the conviction and likely prison sentence are state issues, while deportation is a federal issue. The conviction will simply trigger a deportation review.
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Yet another example of how courts are biased in favour of homosexuals and how they consistently get special privileges.



Would this have been the verdict if Clementi was filmed making out with a girl?







A New Jersey jury today found former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi guilty on all counts for using a webcam to spy on his roommate, Tyler Clementi, having a gay sexual encounter in 2010.



Ravi, 20, was convicted of invasion of privacy, bias intimidation, witness tampering and hindering arrest, stemming from his role in activating the webcam to peek at Clementi's date with a man in the dorm room on Sept. 19, 2010. Ravi was also convicted of encouraging others to spy during a second date, on Sept. 21, 2010, and intimidating Clementi for being gay.



Ravi was found not guilty of some subparts of the 15 counts of bias intimidation, attempted invasion of privacy, and attempted bias intimidation, but needed only to be found guilty of one part of each count to be convicted.



The convictions carry a possible sentence of five to 10 years in prison. Because Ravi is a citizen of India, and is in the US on a green card, he could be deported following his sentencing. The US deports most criminals convicted of felonies, with the exception of thefts of amounts under $10,000.



Clementi's mother, who sat with her husband and sons in the front row for the duration of the three-week trial, broke down in tears as the first "guilty" verdicts were read. Clementi's father took notes throughout the reading of the verdicts.



Ravi's attorney, Steven Altman, put his arm around Ravi's shoulder shortly before the verdict. Ravi showed little reaction as the jury read out the verdicts to his crimes.



Clementi's case gained national attention when he committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge Sept. 22, 2010. Ravi is not charged in connection with Clementi's death.



http://news.yahoo.co...--abc-news.html


What a load of your horseshit, Gary. If you served on the jury, you would have voted to acquit, thereby resulting in a hung jury. The law would mean nothing to you.



That post shows high hatred towards gays and lesbians. There would be a good many of them waiting in line to broadcast their Sunday punches to you.


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Old March 16th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #44
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Yet another example of how courts are biased in favour of homosexuals and how they consistently get special privileges.



Would this have been the verdict if Clementi was filmed making out with a girl?







A New Jersey jury today found former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi guilty on all counts for using a webcam to spy on his roommate, Tyler Clementi, having a gay sexual encounter in 2010.



Ravi, 20, was convicted of invasion of privacy, bias intimidation, witness tampering and hindering arrest, stemming from his role in activating the webcam to peek at Clementi's date with a man in the dorm room on Sept. 19, 2010. Ravi was also convicted of encouraging others to spy during a second date, on Sept. 21, 2010, and intimidating Clementi for being gay.



Ravi was found not guilty of some subparts of the 15 counts of bias intimidation, attempted invasion of privacy, and attempted bias intimidation, but needed only to be found guilty of one part of each count to be convicted.



The convictions carry a possible sentence of five to 10 years in prison. Because Ravi is a citizen of India, and is in the US on a green card, he could be deported following his sentencing. The US deports most criminals convicted of felonies, with the exception of thefts of amounts under $10,000.



Clementi's mother, who sat with her husband and sons in the front row for the duration of the three-week trial, broke down in tears as the first "guilty" verdicts were read. Clementi's father took notes throughout the reading of the verdicts.



Ravi's attorney, Steven Altman, put his arm around Ravi's shoulder shortly before the verdict. Ravi showed little reaction as the jury read out the verdicts to his crimes.



Clementi's case gained national attention when he committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge Sept. 22, 2010. Ravi is not charged in connection with Clementi's death.



http://news.yahoo.co...--abc-news.html


What a load of your horseshit, Gary. If you served on the jury, you would have voted to acquit, thereby resulting in a hung jury. The law would mean nothing to you.



That post shows high hatred towards gays and lesbians. There would be a good many of them waiting in line to broadcast their Sunday punches to you.


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Admit it Willie - you hate Indian people.



There's no other possible explanation for your opinion.
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Gary is such an obvious troll.
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How long before a case like this happens on a military base?



Colleges shouldn't force normal people to share rooms with homosexuals.
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Gary is such an obvious troll.


Because I apply your rationale to others??
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Yet another example of how courts are biased in favour of homosexuals and how they consistently get special privileges.



Would this have been the verdict if Clementi was filmed making out with a girl?







A New Jersey jury today found former Rutgers student Dharun Ravi guilty on all counts for using a webcam to spy on his roommate, Tyler Clementi, having a gay sexual encounter in 2010.



Ravi, 20, was convicted of invasion of privacy, bias intimidation, witness tampering and hindering arrest, stemming from his role in activating the webcam to peek at Clementi's date with a man in the dorm room on Sept. 19, 2010. Ravi was also convicted of encouraging others to spy during a second date, on Sept. 21, 2010, and intimidating Clementi for being gay.



Ravi was found not guilty of some subparts of the 15 counts of bias intimidation, attempted invasion of privacy, and attempted bias intimidation, but needed only to be found guilty of one part of each count to be convicted.



The convictions carry a possible sentence of five to 10 years in prison. Because Ravi is a citizen of India, and is in the US on a green card, he could be deported following his sentencing. The US deports most criminals convicted of felonies, with the exception of thefts of amounts under $10,000.



Clementi's mother, who sat with her husband and sons in the front row for the duration of the three-week trial, broke down in tears as the first "guilty" verdicts were read. Clementi's father took notes throughout the reading of the verdicts.



Ravi's attorney, Steven Altman, put his arm around Ravi's shoulder shortly before the verdict. Ravi showed little reaction as the jury read out the verdicts to his crimes.



Clementi's case gained national attention when he committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge Sept. 22, 2010. Ravi is not charged in connection with Clementi's death.



http://news.yahoo.co...--abc-news.html


What a load of your horseshit, Gary. If you served on the jury, you would have voted to acquit, thereby resulting in a hung jury. The law would mean nothing to you.



That post shows high hatred towards gays and lesbians. There would be a good many of them waiting in line to broadcast their Sunday punches to you.


Willie - sorry to see you hate people of colour so much

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I didn't know you are colored. I don't hate anyone, unlike you.

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Admit it Willie - you hate Indian people.



There's no other possible explanation for your opinion.

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You're a barrel of laughs - not. There's no other possible explanation for your hatred. I like Native Americans, and Indians as well. You must be British-Indian.
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How can Ravi be guilty of invasion of privacy for filming in his own room?



So if a couple goes out for the evening and leaves a web cam filming the babysitter - they can be sued for invasion of privacy?
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So if a couple goes out for the evening and leaves a web cam filming the babysitter - they can be sued for invasion of privacy?


Yes, if the webcam was in a place like a bathroom where a reasonable person had an expectation of privacy.

Just like a dorm room where one's roommate had granted one private use of the room.



At least the jury understood that simple concept even if you don't.
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