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Old March 25th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #21
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Old March 25th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #22
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.






Ditto



Now how would you feel if a mod bullied you by deleting that post?

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I wouldn't consider it bullying.



The bottom line is I really wouldn't care all that much. I might ask why but that would be the end of it.



This forum is not that important to me.



In fact I took a voluntary break from here for a couple of months...so if I got booted from here, I would move on with my life...and I wouldn't lose one second of sleep.



But, even more importantly, I don't worry about it because I don't berate the moderators over their job performance, I don't attack other posters over their personal life and I try (although I sometimes fail I admit) not to get down the gutter with other posters.

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Would you consider it a form of bullying if your posts were deleted or you were suspended without good reason?
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Old March 25th, 2012, 09:07 AM   #23
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.






Ditto



Now how would you feel if a mod bullied you by deleting that post?

[/quote]



I wouldn't consider it bullying.



The bottom line is I really wouldn't care all that much. I might ask why but that would be the end of it.



This forum is not that important to me.



In fact I took a voluntary break from here for a couple of months...so if I got booted from here, I would move on with my life...and I wouldn't lose one second of sleep.



But, even more importantly, I don't worry about it because I don't berate the moderators over their job performance, I don't attack other posters over their personal life and I try (although I sometimes fail I admit) not to get down the gutter with other posters.

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Would you consider it a form of bullying if your posts were deleted or you were suspended without good reason?

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No, I believe I already answered this question.



Bullying is a VERY serious action. It serves to destroy the self esteem of the person being bullied.



Having posts deleted from this forum....or even being banned from this forum would not affect my self esteem in the slightest.



If your self esteem is, in any way, affected by what happens in this forum, then I would suggest you have more serious problems then having posts deleted or your account being deactivated.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 09:31 AM   #24
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.






Ditto



Now how would you feel if a mod bullied you by deleting that post?

[/quote]



I wouldn't consider it bullying.



The bottom line is I really wouldn't care all that much. I might ask why but that would be the end of it.



This forum is not that important to me.



In fact I took a voluntary break from here for a couple of months...so if I got booted from here, I would move on with my life...and I wouldn't lose one second of sleep.



But, even more importantly, I don't worry about it because I don't berate the moderators over their job performance, I don't attack other posters over their personal life and I try (although I sometimes fail I admit) not to get down the gutter with other posters.

[/quote]





Would you consider it a form of bullying if your posts were deleted or you were suspended without good reason?

[/quote]



No, I believe I already answered this question.



Bullying is a VERY serious action. It serves to destroy the self esteem of the person being bullied.



Having posts deleted from this forum....or even being banned from this forum would not affect my self esteem in the slightest.



If your self esteem is, in any way, affected by what happens in this forum, then I would suggest you have more serious problems then having posts deleted or your account being deactivated.

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So how can any action on the internet destroy self esteem?



Apparently you think that children who committed suicide over cyber bullying had more serious problems.



Would you agree a tragic kid like Tyler Clementi had more serious problems?
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I think part of the reason cyberbullying effects adolescents so much is becasue social media has become to them what face-to-face conversation used to mean for everyone twenty years ago. There are kids that think spending time with their friends means playing online games while wearing a headset so they can talk to each other.



For some kids, having their peers bombard their email with hateful messages hurts just as much as if the words were said to the kid's face.



This site shares some experiences from people in America, Canada, & England

http://www.slais.ubc...on/examples.htm
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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #26
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I remember being bullied in 5th grade, which was the 1972-73 school year. One time 4 kids held me over a puddle, threatening to drop me. I would try to pay people to be friendly to me. I thought things would be better when I attended a different school the next year, but I was still ridiculed. One kid didn't stop until I tried to punch him in the locker room. I missed his face, and he landed a punch on my body, but he held off on the teasing after that.



I look back now, and I can see aspects of my own life at that time that may have contributed to the situation. My parents grew up in the Depression, and they only took baths once a week, and that is the way they raised us kids. So my hygiene was not at an appropriate level, and being the intellectual nerd that I was, I carried a briefcase to all my classes. It could have been that some of the situations which I interpreted as ridicule were simply peer pressure aimed at getting me to be more hygienically responsible and less nerdy. Still, it felt terrible, and going to a teacher didn't really help since they didn't see the other kids as doing anything overly wrong. Kids will be kids, you know, and sometimes kids are harsh.



I think schools these days are less willing to let peer pressure take the form of ridicule, whether it is for hygeine, social awkwardness, obesity, or effeminate behaviour. The kids who are "poking fun" at others are being made more aware of the effects of their actions.
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I remember being bullied in 5th grade, which was the 1972-73 school year. One time 4 kids held me over a puddle, threatening to drop me. I would try to pay people to be friendly to me. I thought things would be better when I attended a different school the next year, but I was still ridiculed. One kid didn't stop until I tried to punch him in the locker room. I missed his face, and he landed a punch on my body, but he held off on the teasing after that.



I look back now, and I can see aspects of my own life at that time that may have contributed to the situation. My parents grew up in the Depression, and they only took baths once a week, and that is the way they raised us kids. So my hygiene was not at an appropriate level, and being the intellectual nerd that I was, I carried a briefcase to all my classes. It could have been that some of the situations which I interpreted as ridicule were simply peer pressure aimed at getting me to be more hygienically responsible and less nerdy. Still, it felt terrible, and going to a teacher didn't really help since they didn't see the other kids as doing anything overly wrong. Kids will be kids, you know, and sometimes kids are harsh.



I think schools these days are less willing to let peer pressure take the form of ridicule, whether it is for hygeine, social awkwardness, obesity, or effeminate behaviour. The kids who are "poking fun" at others are being made more aware of the effects of their actions.


Until about the 5th grade, I was bullied. And then, my mom told me that unless I stood up to them, the bullying would increase. So I started standing up to them. The "golden moment" was standing up to the top bully, and backing him down.



This is something we should teach our children. I taught my daughters this. Both are fine independent feminine souls. My youngest is really intelligent, and quite emotional, and if she's set on something it's best not to cross her path. When she was 18, a car mechanic tried to bullshit her, and she called him on it, and backed him down. Dad's heart swelled.



The question isn't either/or: Should we teach our children to put trust in the glacial processes of government, or should we teach our children to stand up to bullies? We should teach them both.



The "good guys" of my middle and high school days, of which I was one, weren't bullies. But we knew who they were, And they knew who we were. And we saw to it that they kept a very low profile, and they did.
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.




I agree 110%. I am the same here and would say the same in person in the "real world". And I do.
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.




I agree 110%. I am the same here and would say the same in person in the "real world". And I do.

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If you believe what you say does that mean it's no longer bullying?
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Few who "stand for the truth" on the internet would be so "bold" face-to-face. The evolution of bullying since 1990 has resulted in internet bullies, gormless, ever-wanking cowards who often take cover behind "We The People."











I am more than willing to call you that to your face if you want.





I see what Xander means about anonymous people bullying on the internet


Wow, saying that I am willing to call you Baghdad Gary to your face is now considered bullying?



There is no threat stated or even implied there. I have no desire to physically assualt you, or even publically humiliate you (although you do just fine on your own with humiliating yourself in public).



I am just making the statement that anything I say on this forum I am more than willing to say in the real world....and face to face with anyone that disagrees with me.



I am not ashamed of what I believe and what I stand for....and I truly do believe what I say.



If you see that as "bullying" then you have some issues.




I agree 110%. I am the same here and would say the same in person in the "real world". And I do.

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If you believe what you say does that mean it's no longer bullying?

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Bullying is an attempt to intimidate/humiliate



When I say something on here it is not an attempt to intimidate, it is an attempt to share my opinion (and more importantly) the reason behind my opinion.



My reasons are based on logic not dogma, the Constitution not opinion and reason not emotion.



It's why you always end up trying to twist my words becuase you have no logic, the Constitution does not support you (and your lack of knowledge of it and our legal system is pretty well known) and you resort to emotion over reason.



This is not bullying, I'm not attempting to intimidate you or humiliate you.



I'm just out debating you.
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