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| This is a little different spin on bullying. A poignant, unanswered question, why did no one fight back during the Aurora shootings? Why do Americans, in general, tolerate their being bullied? Quote:
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And the police would say, "we can't be everywhere."
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Unless you’ve been faced with a life and death situation, no one can know for sure how they’ll react. We’d all like to think we’d do the right thing. But the thinking part is where it gets tricky. When it happens, you react. There is no thinking. When it’s over, you’re numb. Only when the adrenaline wears off and you start thinking about the situation do you realize the danger. So I have to agree with the story above. It is surprising more people didn’t react by going on the attack. I’ve read a few stories where a few did some brave things. But it seems overall people mostly panicked. |
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It's not just the police that are insufficient, but it's also the court system, isn't it? We have far too many bad guys who are caught by the police, but are then released on technicalities, or they never suffer the punishment that they actually deserve. People should be willing to take matters into their own hands and be willing to punish the bad guys so they don't get away with their crimes. Armed citizens should be roaming the streets looking for criminals and stopping them before they hurt people. After all, we can't have that "culture of passive victims" mentality. (not sure how tongue-in-cheek that paragraph actually was) |
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I don't understand your point Bookworm. | |
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Well, why don't we train the passivity out of ourselves? Take a stand, not just while a crime is happening, but after the crime has taken place. Why just let the courts handle it, if we don't think the police are handling things properly. Why be passive before crimes happen? Shouldn't we try stopping them before they happen, using strength rather than passivity? Really now, what is the solution to the problem that the article presents? How do we prevent this "culture of passive victims" without creating a "culture" that could easily go the other direction? | ||
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Well, why don't we train the passivity out of ourselves? Take a stand, not just while a crime is happening, but after the crime has taken place. Why just let the courts handle it, if we don't think the police are handling things properly. Why be passive before crimes happen? Shouldn't we try stopping them before they happen, using strength rather than passivity? Really now, what is the solution to the problem that the article presents? How do we prevent this "culture of passive victims" without creating a "culture" that could easily go the other direction? [/quote] Do you know the sheep, sheepherder, and wolves metaphor? A certain percentage of people will be sheep, a large percentage, and that's nothing new. However, the sheepherders/wolves ratio seems to be tipping in favor of the wolves. I don't favor preemptive acts, by people, law enforcement, or nations. In the past I have intervened on behalf a person being beaten senseless, perhaps to death, by fists. I've never been in a situation involving firearms. To me, this incident is another manifestation of a growing lack of personal responsibility. I don't know what can be done to reverse this trend, but I know thinly veiled "outrage" by some citizens who call self-armed citizens "gun nuts" to justify gun control laws that only affect law-abiding gun owners isn't an answer. Do you have a solution to the problem presented by the article? | ||
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| No, because I think the "problem" as presented by the author is overblown. The vast majority of people are going to run if they are in danger. Somehow the author thinks that because everyone ran in Aurora, and because most people run when in danger, then we must have some "passivity" problem. That's hogwash. People run.
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I said most people, historically, will run, but I also said the sheepherders/wolves ratio seems to be tipping in the wolves favor. What do think about that? | ||
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