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Old December 11th, 2013, 05:47 PM   #21
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Maybe because states only mandate basic minimum coverage, not auto policies with unlimited liability, universal rates for accident prone drone and alcoholic drivers, and no charge preventative maintenance for vehicle.
Yeah, get a DUI and see if you can avoid high risk insurance. I have been forced my entire working lifetime to pay for the uninsured. It's pie in the sky to think someone won't be forced to pay the bill. Pie in the sky....
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Old December 11th, 2013, 07:16 PM   #22
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Who ever said that? The republicans sure thought it was a fine idea back in the 90's. But the fact is, mandating people have coverage has zero to do with a church being forced to go against it's doctrine and to do any wedding whose participants it feels do not meet the requirements of that faith. Nothing could force them to marry anyone, least of all, the government.
The republicans did not think it was a fine idea in the 1990s, and if you need another lesson on that, I will help you out.

But the fact is, as a matter of fact, factually speaking, there is no difference in the unconstitutionality of forcing people to buy insurance, originating a tax bill in the Senate, allowing the IRS to write legislation, than revoking the 1st Amendment, as a matter of fact according to the facts.

Nothing could have forced Americans to buy insurance until 2010 either.
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So everyone with car accident insurance in the red states bought it due to their great dedication to social responsibility?
Supreme act of conflation.
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Supreme act of conflation.
This thread is about a Colorado cake maker who refused a gay couples business.
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The republicans did not think it was a fine idea in the 1990s, and if you need another lesson on that, I will help you out.

But the fact is, as a matter of fact, factually speaking, there is no difference in the unconstitutionality of forcing people to buy insurance, originating a tax bill in the Senate, allowing the IRS to write legislation, than revoking the 1st Amendment, as a matter of fact according to the facts.

Nothing could have forced Americans to buy insurance until 2010 either.

Forcing people to buy insurance is shit, sir, I tell you shit! But I do feel that as a "first world country" we should not be able to afford insurance for anyone who wants it? Our medical system is unmistakably Flawed. Nobody should be forced into bankruptcy due to medical bills.
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So everyone with car accident insurance in the red states bought it due to their great dedication to social responsibility?
You made one of the best arguments against Obamacare in your question: "states."
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This thread is about a Colorado cake maker who refused a gay couples business.
Sorry every thred someone gets all heated over this healthcare thing...sometimes I follow the bait.
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Forcing people to buy insurance is shit, sir, I tell you shit! But I do feel that as a "first world country" we should not be able to afford insurance for anyone who wants it? Our medical system is unmistakably Flawed. Nobody should be forced into bankruptcy due to medical bills.
Also, there is nothing in the Constitution that forces the insured to pay for the uninsured.
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Also, there is nothing in the Constitution that forces the insured to pay for the uninsured.
Ok one last one, I gotta do it..
I believe you answered your own post. If they can't make you buy insurance then how can they make you pay for the un insured? You have made statements on this in two different points. One with the auto insurance, take that up with your insurance provider. And with out nationalized healthcare you are thru higher premiums anyways. The way this is written is flawed, no question, but what we have now is also. I think that there are already some threads on this running.

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Ok one last one, I gotta do it..
I believe you answered your own post. If they can't make you buy insurance then how can they make you pay for the un insured? You have made statements on this in two different points. One with the auto insurance, take that up with your insurance provider. And with out nationalized healthcare you are thru higher premiums anyways. The way this is written is flawed, no question, but what we have now is also. I think that there are already some threads on this running.

Back to the gays, the bakers, and candlestick makers.
How can it be alright to force the insured to pay for the uninsured all these years but be wrong to force the uninsured to pay for themselves ? The Right was for personal responsibility before they were against it. They hold the liberal view on this issue.
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