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Old December 12th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #41
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Isn't that basically the same thing?
Nope. Taxes are not buying something. It's paying a tax.
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Old December 12th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #42
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Remember that slippery slope I was talking about with all the gay crap?
Suddenly, they're more important, and you must bow down to them and do all they want.

Was it tristian that said they gay community would never 'force' a church to have a wedding that they were totally against?
Well, it looks like they want to start with small business owners that have the right to refuse people.


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I'm sorry, but I pointed this out a while ago... It won't be long until the entire united states is forced to comply to something that many of us feel is unethical and wrong. This is just bullying the majority now.
Whatever happened to majority rule?
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He is talking about a bakery being forced to make a cake for a gay wedding.
That is the OP and the bold part shows where he is thinking that this means that gays are going to be able to force government in the future to for ce churches to perform gay weddings.
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Old December 12th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #43
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So everyone with car accident insurance in the red states bought it due to their great dedication to social responsibility?
Also you are not "forced" to buy auto insurance.....don't drive a car and you don't have to have auto insurance.

EVERYONE has to buy health insurance under the ACA
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Old December 12th, 2013, 04:32 PM   #44
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Also you are not "forced" to buy auto insurance.....don't drive a car and you don't have to have auto insurance.

EVERYONE has to buy health insurance under the ACA
You can chose to not buy insurance, just pay the fine.
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You can chose to not buy insurance, just pay the fine.
It's not a fine....it's a tax (at least according to the Supreme Court)

Most states offer the same thing on auto insurance too called a "non insured motorist fee"
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Also you are not "forced" to buy auto insurance.....don't drive a car and you don't have to have auto insurance.

EVERYONE has to buy health insurance under the ACA
Our mortality demands healthcare. Our human nature of self preservation demands healthcare. It's not a choice if one is injured or ill. I'm surprised I had to point that out to you Nwolfe. A wealthy Ex-Vice President wouldn't have had to wait on a list to purchase broccoli. The Christian Science parents of a child would not risk imprisonment for denying their child broccoli. Due to our very mortality, healthcare is not commerce subject to the Commerce Clause.
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Our mortality demands healthcare. Our human nature of self preservation demands healthcare. It's not a choice if one is injured or ill. I'm surprised I had to point that out to you Nwolfe. A wealthy Ex-Vice President wouldn't have had to wait on a list to purchase broccoli. The Christian Science parents of a child would not risk imprisonment for denying their child broccoli. Due to our very mortality, healthcare is not commerce subject to the Commerce Clause.
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The thread premise is so freakin' ignorant and stupid.

There is no church that can be forced to marry gay couples, any more than a Catholic church is forced to marry divorced couples, a Mormon church or an Orthodox temple is required to marry mixed religion couples. To suggest such a thing is absurd and shows an incredible lack of knowledge about what the state can and can't force churches to do.

There is no difference between a bakery being forced to serve a gay couple (I can't fathom why any couple would WANT to use them - but....) and a lunch counter refusing to serve black people. If you're open to the public, you are not allowed legally to discriminate.

Period.

If you want to discriminate against minorities, move to one of those countries that force you to believe the way the majority believes or they stone you.
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Maybe because states only mandate basic minimum coverage, not auto policies with unlimited liability, universal rates for accident prone drone and alcoholic drivers, and no charge preventative maintenance for vehicle.
Everyone is wrong on comparing mandated auto insurance to mandated health insurance. With auto insurance no one is FORCED to own a automobile. Health insurance..well..sieg heil!!!!
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Everyone is wrong on comparing mandated auto insurance to mandated health insurance. With auto insurance no one is FORCED to own a automobile. Health insurance..well..sieg heil!!!!
With the law of human nature, mortals are forced to seek healthcare when injured or ill. It's not a choice.
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