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Old December 13th, 2013, 08:48 AM   #81
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I thought I had responded pretty specifically to the post I quoted.

Don't know how I "missed the point" - seemed fairly clear to me.
So you feel using the government to force a private business to produce something that they don't want to is a good thing?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:41 AM   #83
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So you feel using the government to force a private business to produce something that they don't want to is a good thing?
it's a bakery that doesn't produce baked goods?

they need a dictionary

... unless you think the ingredients for a gay wedding cake are different than a straight wedding cake. I'm pretty sure it's all flour, eggs, milk, baking powder, etc. ...
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Old December 13th, 2013, 10:01 AM   #84
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it's a bakery that doesn't produce baked goods?

they need a dictionary

... unless you think the ingredients for a gay wedding cake are different than a straight wedding cake. I'm pretty sure it's all flour, eggs, milk, baking powder, etc. ...
It's morals man. Anyone can deny anyone service for any reason.
Imagine a Hindu chef was requested to make burgers.
Or a Muslim that denied the owner of a pig slaughter company.
it all comes down to what you believe in. all three of these examples are asking people to drop their morals or forget their religion for a bit. It's wrong to force someone that started something be told that they have to drop their morals and change THEIR business to fit someone elses needs.
What he should have said was 'if you don't like it, go somewhere else.'
it's his business. Not the gay couples.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #85
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it's a bakery that doesn't produce baked goods?

they need a dictionary

... unless you think the ingredients for a gay wedding cake are different than a straight wedding cake. I'm pretty sure it's all flour, eggs, milk, baking powder, etc. ...
Your circular arguments are a bit petty. The key word in my statement was 'want"

I support the right to marry movement. I support all human rights. Once again your missing my point. They were forcing someone to cater their wedding. That is completely different then stoping buy and grabbing a cake that's sitting on display. I support individual business owners rights as well. What I don't understand is how this became what it did. It has to be completely political. The couple must have said that they passed thus law so he has to make my cake and the baker said I don't agree with that law so no I don't. And blah blah blah. In this day and age it's not hard to find a caterer. And wouldn't you want to support a business that supports your community?

So once again, after another explanation...do you want the government to have the power to force a business to produce something that they don't WANT to?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #86
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yes, I believe that any goods produced by the company should be legally required to be sold to anybody - straight or gay.

should they be forced to produce something they DON'T manufacture? of course, not.

but telling somebody, "I'll make your neighbors that cake - but I won't make it for you." should be illegal.

and, yes, I would personally never never ever give that baker my business. Obviously this couple felt mistreated enough to sue.
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yes, I believe that any goods produced by the company should be legally required to be sold to anybody - straight or gay.

should they be forced to produce something they DON'T manufacture? of course, not.

but telling somebody, "I'll make your neighbors that cake - but I won't make it for you." should be illegal.
No, I should not be forced to provide care that results in abortion..

Now if someone comes into my care, as a result of a botched abortion, I would gladly give care..

Unless the mother's life is in immediate danger, I will not provide my services for her to kill another human life in the name of convienience
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yes, I believe that any goods produced by the company should be legally required to be sold to anybody - straight or gay.

should they be forced to produce something they DON'T manufacture? of course, not.

but telling somebody, "I'll make your neighbors that cake - but I won't make it for you." should be illegal.
Why? This is a newly created legal concept in violation of private property rights.

No one should be forced to buy from anyone, and no business should be forced to sell to anyone. They balance out on a scale.

If someone chooses to not buy from a pagan business because of their Christian beliefs, should the business be able to sue them?
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