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Old January 11th, 2018, 03:05 PM   #11
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Gee, on another thread I was just told I needed video evidence. Here Iíve got it and itís ignored.

Here's a big clue, with real evidence, they don't talk about how they faked it.


No gay couple was denied service, it didn't happen, that's why the bakery didn't get sued.

Figure it out yet?
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Old January 11th, 2018, 03:13 PM   #12
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Here's a big clue, with real evidence, they don't talk about how they faked it.


No gay couple was denied service, it didn't happen, that's why the bakery didn't get sued.

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Appears you didnít watch it. The guy attempted to by an obviously gay wedding cake and was sent away, from different bakeries operated by Muslims.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 06:36 PM   #13
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What makes this case different than just the widget example that you used is that these people requested a specialized cake. They were not just buying one off of the shelf.
My argument has nothing to do with off-the-shelf vs specialized; it's independent of that and applies to either case. A widget can be anything; I suppose you could say "specialized widget", but "widget" in general really just means you replace it with whatever type of good or service to replace it; you can fill it with "specialized cakes" & "specialized widgets" would just become "specialized specialized cakes" (kinda redundant dontchathink?).

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I also believe that he did offer them one off the shelf this is key in this case as if the state can compel a person to preform their "art" against their will for any reason it becomes a slippery slope.
Yes it would be a slippery slope if he was being compelled to do something against his will, but if he has opened up a retail outlet, put signs up saying yes we're open, and we offer custom cakes, then how is it against his will to make - how else can I put this - a custom cake?
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My argument has nothing to do with off-the-shelf vs specialized; it's independent of that and applies to either case. A widget can be anything; I suppose you could say "specialized widget", but "widget" in general really just means you replace it with whatever type of good or service to replace it; you can fill it with "specialized cakes" & "specialized widgets" would just become "specialized specialized cakes" (kinda redundant dontchathink?).


Yes it would be a slippery slope if he was being compelled to do something against his will, but if he has opened up a retail outlet, put signs up saying yes we're open, and we offer custom cakes, then how is it against his will to make - how else can I put this - a custom cake?
I posted this in another thread on the same subject


Say you write speeches for a living. I hire you to write a speech for me. The subject was how homosexuality is an abomination and should be made a criminal offense punishable by death. Shoud the state compel you to write that speech?
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Appears you didnít watch it. The guy attempted to by an obviously gay wedding cake and was sent away, from different bakeries operated by Muslims.
The guy wasn't gay, he wasn't trying to buy a cake, he was trying to create a sting video, and between what he videoed and how he edited it, he managed to fool you, but you're easily fooled, because there is no victim, there is no one to sue.
And he could buy a cake if he wanted, he just couldn't get it inscribed.
No harm, no foul.
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Say you write speeches for a living. I hire you to write a speech for me. The subject was how homosexuality is an abomination and should be made a criminal offense punishable by death. Shoud the state compel you to write that speech?
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Say you write speeches for a living. I hire you to write a speech for me. The subject was how homosexuality is an abomination and should be made a criminal offense punishable by death. Shoud the state compel you to write that speech?
I'll write the speech, I charge $50,000, up front.
And rewrite is $50 a word.
Ball's in your court.....
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I'll write the speech, I charge $50,000, up front.
And rewrite is $50 a word.
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Again. A leftist cannot answer a simple question.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 02:48 AM   #20
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Again. A leftist cannot answer a simple question.
The state doesn't force people to write speeches.
Because the point of getting a speech written is to get a good speech.
And while a person may be able to use the state to force a person to write a speech, they don't. Because they can't force a person to write a good speech.
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