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Old May 15th, 2016, 08:41 AM   #31
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Not being judgmental here, just curious.
Why are so many people hesitant, even fearful one might say, to come into even the slightest contact with a stranger?
From "restaurant" app, to drive through everything people seem to be willing to do anything, put up with anything, in order to not have to come into contact with another human being not already a close friend of relative.
My question is why? What's your opinion?
If I order online I don't have to spell things for a person, don't have to read off credit card info, and I can take my sweet ass time.

As for contact with a stranger, that goes out the window when the delivery person knocks on my door.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 08:44 AM   #32
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Automation in the restaurant business is coming, higher minimum wage or no higher minimum wage.

To say it's coming because of higher minimum wages is a red herring.
It's an economic decision as to if/when to install it. It will eventually happen because sooner or later wages go up and the cost of new technology goes down. Bumping up MW does accelerates the timeline of changeover.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 08:45 AM   #33
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If I order online I don't have to spell things for a person, don't have to read off credit card info, and I can take my sweet ass time.

As for contact with a stranger, that goes out the window when the delivery person knocks on my door.
And I don't know what your experience is there, but here, I can understand the machine, odds are the person has such a thick accent half the time I can't understand them.
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If I order online I don't have to spell things for a person, don't have to read off credit card info, and I can take my sweet ass time.

As for contact with a stranger, that goes out the window when the delivery person knocks on my door.
What's the difference between reading your credit card number to someone and typing it into your online order? A complete stranger is still getting your card number.
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Automation in the restaurant business is coming, higher minimum wage or no higher minimum wage.

To say it's coming because of higher minimum wages is a red herring.
I thought you were referring to the displacement of entry level and unskilled workers. Because that is a given. It may only be a short term consequence but a consequence nonetheless.
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When the “Fight for $15” movement was first sweeping the country, none of its proponents had any idea what a higher minimum wage would truly entail. They live in a fantasy world where everyone should be paid a wage based on their needs rather than their skills, and where businesses and entrepreneurs can provide an endless supply of money (they’re just too greedy to do so willingly).
But now their chickens are coming home to roost. Companies that once provided cheap labor for unskilled workers are being forced to cut hours and benefits. Or in the case of Wendy’s, they’re forced to automate some of their services to make up the money they’re expected to lose from a higher minimum wage.
Last August the company’s President, Todd Penegor, revealed that they would be exploring automation in response to wage hikes. “We continue to look at initiatives and how we work to offset any impacts of future wage inflation through technology initiatives, whether that’s customer self-order kiosks, whether that’s automating more in the back of the house in the restaurant.”
Penegor followed up on that statement recently, and announced that Wendy’s will be offering self-serve ordering kiosks to all of their 6000-plus restaurants later this year. Each franchise owner will get to decide if they want the kiosks, hundreds of which exist in states and municipalities that are pushing for a $15 minimum wage.
He explained to Investors Business Daily that Wendy’s company owned stores are facing 5-6% wage inflation due to new laws and the need to provide competitive wages. With a wage hike like that, it’s no surprise that the company needs to cut labor costs wherever it can. Ironically, the fast food workers who are pushing for a higher minimum wage more than anyone else, are going to feel the pinch.


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Automation is prone to break down and will provide high skilled workers lots of high paying jobs. Low skilled workers can not learn high tech in Community College let alone High School.
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What's the difference between reading your credit card number to someone and typing it into your online order? A complete stranger is still getting your card number.
Online goes through an algorithm whereas over the phone goes directly to another human. Things like uber, eBay, Amazon, bit squad I only give them my CC one time and it is stored on a server.
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Online goes through an algorithm whereas over the phone goes directly to another human. Things like uber, eBay, Amazon, bit squad I only give them my CC one time and it is stored on a server.
So, the fear of having your credit card numbers, identity, etc. form hackers is completely false, unrealistic?
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What's the difference between reading your credit card number to someone and typing it into your online order? A complete stranger is still getting your card number.
Federal Law limits your responsibility to $50 when your credit card is used unauthorized. Most major credit card companies hold you to no responsibly when your credit card is used fraudulently by person or persons unknown. Caveat, American Express is buyer friendly and Visa is seller friendly.
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So, the fear of having your credit card numbers, identity, etc. form hackers is completely false, unrealistic?
i have a specific card that i use for applications such as these that is not credit but debit that i only keep a grand or so in it. it is insured and not linked to any bank accounts. if any of these business are hacked the business and the CC company are liable. if some kid grabs your number over the phone they can blow through that before you even realize it happens and the liability becomes much more difficult to prove. this is serious shit HW.

i know this is a bit off topic but relevant.

around here credit car theft is huge. breaking into places like the YMCA locker rooms and grabbing wallets and cads. they do it in groups of four. they go thru and cut all the locks and are in and out in no time. afterwords they hand the cards off to another dozen or so and go on spending sprees throughout the city. along w/ online shopping. there is little to nothing that the police can do about it.
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