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Old June 2nd, 2013, 08:28 AM   #81
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gotta go for a while, thank you nwolfe35, it's good to have someone to banter with who expresses themselves coherently
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 08:29 AM   #82
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I see the validity of most of you contention from your point of view, however, i see almost no preservation of the religious history of our civilization in the secular educations being offered in the US today.
And I see those who believe in the mythology of religion attempting to corrupt the history of religion in regards to its place in the founding of this nation.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 08:53 AM   #83
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2 points i must reply to, repentence berk n god religion

repentence, is the conscious falling will, so it is the living sense of being inferior

individually we are limited even gods that is why they prefer to stay out, and since infinity is the truth then it is always the fact of individuals present rigths

but individuals must oblige themselves to never b in terms of inferiors, for what infinity is the truth that any so individuals belong to,

repentence is the pleasure of being inferior consciously living by superior protection, the surrender also god ask for, repentence is also the pleasure of feeling superior other pleased of being over a living inferior, as a way to not do anything but giving life to lies

creations is responsable of sins, where reality is sin dont exist

but of course for animals consciously showin them the possible life as powerful or positive living over others, poverty of individuality history is driven to deny itself for superior claims of everyone existence rights

reality force anyone to b itself conscious source then individuality is true, when the misery of being individual is the reason of choosing to sin by pretending being over it

god religion, is the truth of sin, bc it clearly mean to replace infinite truth by someone life
it is of course evil for the will to b of lies alive, but the sin is the violation to truth rights that of course exist before anything else

nwolfe asked, why cant u b with ur god alone out of publicity, i would reply, bc god religion is the truth of sin so it must b publically clear

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Old June 2nd, 2013, 05:17 PM   #84
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And I see those who believe in the mythology of religion attempting to corrupt the history of religion in regards to its place in the founding of this nation.
we've been down this road before on another thread, how about you respond more directly to my contention and give examples of where secular education does preserve the interactions of history and religion.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 05:24 PM   #85
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in that case we can treet history as a fairy tale because no one today was there 200 or so years ago how do we know
history is true other then by word of mouth and supposed record keeping
we only know history from what people wrote down hundreds of years ago
like you know I think absols finaly got through to me and like wolff
says what is real is hear and now.. so the heck with history
lets make our own history
ooops.. here we go again
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why belong to a church?

So you can act like an asshole 6 days a week, then go and be cleansed, then do it again!
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we've been down this road before on another thread, how about you respond more directly to my contention and give examples of where secular education does preserve the interactions of history and religion.
It is taught that the Pilgrims came to the New World to escape religious persecution.

It is taught that the First Amendment is the Founding Father's answer to that persecution.

Now are you going to respond to my contention that many on the right are attempting to corrupt what the Founding Father's intended and instead are trying to teach that the United States is a "Christian Nation"?
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why belong to a church?

So you can act like an asshole 6 days a week, then go and be cleansed, then do it again!
LOL.. it does seem that way don't it. the weekend christain.
but aren't we all.
its beter to put the brakes on now and then else you may crash
or its beter to try to be what you wanna bee and fail again and again
but the key here is... (you wanna be)
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It is taught that the Pilgrims came to the New World to escape religious persecution.

It is taught that the First Amendment is the Founding Father's answer to that persecution.

Now are you going to respond to my contention that many on the right are attempting to corrupt what the Founding Father's intended and instead are trying to teach that the United States is a "Christian Nation"?
we apparently can't escape the worn path here. in the less than a hundred years american went from doling out persecution even worse than they endured in europe to enshrining religious tolerance in the bill of rights. what got them there? it was called the great awakening, which was an ecumenical religious revival.inspired by the writings of scottish presbyterians to ongoing persecutions in great britain.
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LOL.. it does seem that way don't it. the weekend christain.
but aren't we all.
its beter to put the brakes on now and then else you may crash
or its beter to try to be what you wanna bee and fail again and again
but the key here is... (you wanna be)
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