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Old September 20th, 2013, 11:36 AM   #1
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Politically correct educators?

I find the left-wing fanatical mind interesting. They always seem to be in constant defense mode of their beliefs. Always ignoring facts that do not serve their interest and fanatical goals. For instance, most Americans who came here from Europe came here after the Civil War. Also Christopher Columbus was a Spaniard / Latino and no matter what the rewritten history books say native american were not riding the plains on horse back b4 "White" Men came to this land. Horses were not indigenous to the land we now call America. Plus Native Americans are not "Indians" & Jewish Americans are rarely Semites.
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British teachers are also reluctant to discuss the medieval Crusades, in which Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem: lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.
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moslems butchered christians and everyone else. crusades were wars to take back what the moslems stole.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #4
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moslems butchered christians and everyone else. crusades were wars to take back what the moslems stole.
That's an outright lie. The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem was evidently bloodless. Jews regained the right to live and worship in Jerusalem, a right denied the Jews by the "christian" Byzantine Empire.

And the Crusades in reality do not live up to the idealized version many people - you - attach to them.

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The conduct of the Crusaders was criticized by contemporaries such as Bernard of Clairvaux, who denounced it. The Crusaders ravaged the countries they marched through, killed 8.000 Jews in the Rihneland in the first of Europe’s pogroms, devastated the Mediterranean ports, fought amongst themselves as much as the Infidel, and fleeced their subjects to fill their coffers. Murder and massacre in the service of the Gospel was commonplace. Seventy thousand civilians were butchered in the sack of Jerusalem....

The Crusades were criticised by some contemporaries such as Roger Bacon who felt the Crusades were not effective because, "those who survive, together with their children, are more and more embittered against the Christian faith." Nevertheless the movement was widely supported in Europe long after the fall of Acre in 1291. The 18th century Enlightenment thinkers and modern historians in the West expressed moral outrage at the conduct of the Crusades. In the 1950s, Sir Steven Runciman wrote that "High ideals were besmirched by cruelty and greed ... the Holy War was nothing more than a long act of intolerance in the name of God".

One aspect of the crusades that shocked some easterners was the formation in the west of military religious orders. The Orthodox Christian Byzantine Greeks complained that the Crusaders broke their promise to return lands that had once belonged to Byzantium. In the Enlightenment historians criticized the misdirection of the crusading movement. In particular they pointed to the Fourth Crusade which instead of attacking Islam attacked another Christian power – the (Eastern) Roman Empire. David Nicolle says the Fourth Crusade has always been controversial in terms of the "betrayal" of Byzantium.

Eight hundred years after the Fourth Crusade, Pope John Paul II twice expressed sorrow for the events of the Fourth Crusade. In 2001, he wrote to Christodoulos, Archbishop of Athens, saying, "It is tragic that the assailants, who set out to secure free access for Christians to the Holy Land, turned against their brothers in the faith. The fact that they were Latin Christians fills Catholics with deep regret." In 2004, while Bartholomew I, Patriarch of Constantinople, was visiting the Vatican, John Paul II asked, "How can we not share, at a distance of eight centuries, the pain and disgust." This has been regarded as an apology to the Greek Orthodox Church for the terrible slaughter perpetrated by the warriors of the Fourth Crusade.

In April 2004, in a speech on the 800th anniversary of the city's capture, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I formally accepted the apology. "The spirit of reconciliation is stronger than hatred," he said during a liturgy attended by Roman Catholic Archbishop Philippe Barbarin of Lyon, France. "We receive with gratitude and respect your cordial gesture for the tragic events of the Fourth Crusade. It is a fact that a crime was committed here in the city 800 years ago." Bartholomew said his acceptance came in the spirit of Pascha. "The spirit of reconciliation of the resurrection... incites us toward reconciliation of our churches."
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The totally anti-Christian, anti-Gospel concept of a "just war" was but one abomination that traces its roots to the Crusades.

On topic, centuries of politically correct education idealized the savage and purely political Crusades.
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That's an outright lie.
Actually no.

quote about the crusades: They were the West’s belated response to the Muslim conquest of fully two-thirds of the Christian world. While the Arabs were busy in the seventh through the tenth centuries winning an opulent and sophisticated empire, Europe was defending itself against outside invaders and then digging out from the mess they left behind. Only in the eleventh century were Europeans able to take much notice of the East. The event that led to the crusades was the Turkish conquest of most of Christian Asia Minor (modern Turkey). The Christian emperor in Constantinople, faced with the loss of half of his empire, appealed for help to the rude but energetic Europeans.

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The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem was evidently bloodless.
Muslims, including Saladin, massacred Christians and sold thousands into slavery.
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Humm. what religious fanatics to believe? how arrogant are the Jews to insist on living in a country where their neighbors hate them lol. there are places in this world if they bought their money and power would welcome them with open arms rather than guns and missiles. add to that the fact that Abraham was not
rewarded for being Jewish for he wasn't. He was Chaldean. he was rewarded by
God for being a man of faith not because of DNA.God isnt bias or racist.
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The Christian emperor in Constantinople, faced with the loss of half of his empire, appealed for help to the rude but energetic Europeans.
That's a laugh considering that Christian Rome had launched no less than four crusades to kill off the CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX church, head quartered in Constantinople.

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Muslims, including Saladin, massacred Christians and sold thousands into slavery.
Considering the WHITE EUROPEANS weren't indigenous to the middle east. By what right did they claim the territory ??

What would you do if Mexico decided to launch a war to take back Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California ?? I mean they DID OWN IT long before
those 13 colonies 3000 miles away ever declared independence.
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