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Thinking further on this, it also explains the trend to link shifting blame with power, but that's a whole other potential thread. Understand that this is the subject that got me thrown out of Sunday School class the first time for asking the wrong questions. I've gone over it many times since then. | |
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There is a difference between rape, sexual assault, sexual intimidation and sexual harassment. There are those that believe that they are all the same, but generally the level/type of trauma that each causes is different. Make no mistake though; ALL of these can cause long term trauma and pain that can strip a person of their sense of safety. The fact that so many believe that women should 'learn to take a joke' in situations of harassment and intimidation has created the exact backlash that you are railing against. It would not be wrong to define this as a 'rape culture' though there are some who feel the term is too strong. It is all part and parcel of the same mode of thinking. That said... You are not legally entitled to a due process before being removed from any school for any reason. You are entitled to a defense hearing if you face charges from the local/state/federal government. Schools that use tribunals after breeches of rules do so at their own discretion. | |
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Public universities are required to provide due process. Private universities are under no obligation to do the same. My mistake. | |
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A good rule of thumb: any entity that gets tax payer dollars are held to a higher constitutional standard and the Bill of Rights applies to all of their policies and procedures. Private entities are more subjected to statutory laws such as Title VII, etc. | |
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To this day high school students that are disciplinary problems can be expelled without a hearing. This is true of public schools as well. (This might vary state to state.) | |
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It is sort of like a cop arresting someone for a crime they saw them commit. Due process comes into play after the arrest. This would differ from an accusation that may require due process to advance. And I am glad to see you back. | |
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| What was particularly sarcastic about it? He listed some statistics relating to murder in both Australia and the U.S. Why would sarcasm give you a hard on? OK, I understand, each to his own. There are guys that are really turned on a nice legs, big boobs, even shapely petite feet, but SARCASM??? ![]() |
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Attorneys Release Texts Connected to Infamous UVa Rape Hoax ? and They Claim the Messages Reveal Shocking Twist | TheBlaze.com The Jian Ghomeshi Rape Hoax Shows Why Due Process Matters Brooklyn Gang Rape A Hoax, ?Victim? Confesses To Having Consensual Sex With Teens And Her Own Father No remorse from administrators in Duke lacrosse rape hoax | Washington Examiner redefining rape and intoxication University of Michigan: Withholding Sex, Discounting Feelings are ?Sexual Violence' - The College Fix Sex While Drunk Is Now Legally Rape In California (Seriously, It Is) | Thought Catalog https://share.cornell.edu/education-...clear-consent/ | |
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