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Old July 11th, 2016, 08:47 PM   #1
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"Gun Violence" as a Rhetorical Trick in the Gun-Control Debate

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In its most recent attack on gun ownership, The New York Times went out of its way to confuse gun homicides with homicide in general. As I noted here, this is a rhetorical trick used to mask the true homicide rates in other countries in order to make the United States look like an outlier.

Another trick employed by gun control advocates is to lump gun-inflicted suicides in with gun homicides as in order to inflate the total number of "gun violence" events.

This tactic was employed by CNN after the Orlando shootings, as can be seen in this video. The host, Carol Costello, states "more than 100,000 people are victims of gunshot wounds." Costello reports that the number is "stunning" and clearly believes 100,000 to be a very large number. Note that Costello does not present the number as a percentage or ratio. If she did, she'd realize that 100,000 people (in a country of 318,000,000) is 0.03 percent of the population. Moreover, the way it's phrased might lead viewers to believe that Costello is talking about 100,000 fatalities. Viewers would be wrong in assuming this, since fatalities from gunshot wounds, according to the CDC, equaled 33,636 in 2013, or one-third the number Costello quotes. Costello is obviously including all non-fatal injuries in an effort to use more dramatic-sounding numbers. (See Table 18 in this document.)

Costello also admits that this number "includes suicides." That's fair enough, but how much of that "gun violence" is due to suicide? Well, it turns out that a solid majority of it is suicides. Indeed, in the 2013 data, there were nearly twice as many firearm suicides (21,175) as there were gun homicides (11,20. So, Costello begins a discussion about the Orlando shootings by talking mostly about suicide, which is irrelevant to the purported topic of discussion which is mass shootings at night clubs.

https://mises.org/blog/gun-violence-...control-debate
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The news outlets have an agenda besides just showing us news. Got it.
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The suicide trick has been used for a long time. They attempt to make the argument that removing guns will decrease suicides, but the data does not substantiate the claim.
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What is suicide if not self-murder?
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The suicide trick has been used for a long time. They attempt to make the argument that removing guns will decrease suicides, but the data does not substantiate the claim.
"the data"? Who's data, where?
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"the data"? Who's data, where?

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"the data"? Who's data, where?
Are you confused....again?
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Are you confused....again?
Simple question. One of you kids going to answer it or not?
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