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Old March 21st, 2017, 11:43 AM   #91
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I am well aware of what constitutes a social democracy. Sweden is not a social democracy. Sweden officially refers to their form of government as a parliamentary democracy.
That doesn't address the type of economic system Sweden has. Regardless of taxation levels and the public services offered to people, if it is based on private ownership of most of the economy, that makes it a social democratic system/not socialism! In Sweden, the electric and other utility companies, municipal services have long been privately owned. That's something that we didn't experience up here in Canada until we started getting US-style conservative governments that sold enough voters on the benefits of "unleashing the forces of private enterprise," and since then we've got loads of debt, less control over utilities, and a few politicians who got caught taking money from the companies buying in to public services.
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea

People's Republic of China

Socialist Republic of Vietnam

Republic of Burundi

And so on.
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I once had to teach some eleven-year-olds; imagine them five years younger, full of booze and trying out various drugs, and I think you can probably imagine the sort of problem faced by normal British people faced with Trumpers. Those who deny basic facts expect you to discuss their non-facts; those with no grasp of logic expect you to argue with them logically; those with no knowledge or understanding of basic economics, politics or honesty keep demanding what they call 'proof', which means a text, preferably from some unknown racist magazine, as far into Genesis as their reading skills have ever taken them, or from the last pamphlet they were sent concerning Revelations, but best of all, from something their mates put on Wikipedia last night. I can assure you that, given the chance, I am all for conversation, but arguing with trumpers is like arguing with the pigs we once kept: I expect their love their young, but we don't otherwise have a great deal in common.
That ladies and gentlemen is a prime example of elitist eurotrash bullshit. Thank you for demonstrating that for us.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 01:59 PM   #94
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Are you even aware that capitalism requires state enforcement? And modern globalized neoliberal capitalism requires a military empire to enforce international rules of the IMF, World Bank, WTO and all of the increasingly exploitive trade pacts that are being cooked up for the next round of globalization.

Without police and military force, how does your magical business owner ensure his source of income, or even protect his business, and his land, from being seized by some militia warlord who rises up in the dystopian near future? He can't, and this is why capitalist systems inevitably degrade into fascist states where the powerful control whatever commerce exists.

The state will exist until civilization collapses. The question is: who runs the state: 1. the people? Or 2. the uber-wealthy minority? Which is where we are right now!
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How to tell when Sab got a beatdown.
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AH, did some nasty adult insert facts into your childish fantasy world?
The BASTARD!!!!
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Well, they did. Read the article..again..
Factbox: Venezuela's nationalizations under Chavez | Reuters

A LITTLE socialism????????
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AH, did some nasty adult insert facts into your childish fantasy world?
The BASTARD!!!!



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Damned adults, fucking REALITY!!!!
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