Originally Posted by tristanrobin

discrimination and bigotry and intentional ignorance always gets to me.

surely you've noticed that's where my passion (and compassion) lies

Originally Posted by caconservative

I notice your OX got gored, and your livid. Why, is beyond me.

Originally Posted by goober

progress, followed by regression, followed by progress, that's the story of the US, each progressive wave taking us further than we were before, each wave of regression not quite erasing the progress made before it.
Trump is the latest wave of regression, but the progress that will survive him will provide a base for the next wave of progress that is beyond where we were when Obama took office.

Trump can make things unpleasant for trangender people who wish to serve in the military. But he can't roll back same sex marriage or openly gay service members.
He may yet succeed in rolling back some of ObamaCare, but there are parts of ObamaCare that would take 60 votes in the Senate to roll back.
And public opinion stands as a pretty impressive obstacle to whatever the GOP comes up with.
And while the next Democratic wave may not give the Party of the People 60 senate seats, nothing Trump and the GOP do get through will need 60 votes to roll back.

The back and forth has always been there, but the long term trend to progress has always been there too.

Like a carnival barker touting a two headed cow, once the crowd gets inside and can see the stitches where second head was sewn on, they are harder to fool the next time.

People still are hoping that Trump can deliver on his promises of good solid jobs, with benefits and high wages, and low health insurance premiums, and 4% growth and all the other stuff that Trump promised. In 2020, he'll promise all that crap again, but in 2020, we'll have watched him fail to deliver it for 4 years.

And that will fuel the next wave of progress.

Originally Posted by RNG

What about his livid?

Originally Posted by BubbaJones

And if the actual words spoken by Jesus are true, all those things about love and forgiveness and not judging others, when you get to the gates of heaven, he's going to take one look and at you, and say "what the fuck were you thinking????"

I think Gandhi had it right, "I like your Christ, but not your Christians."

"Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

...The materialism of affluent Christian countries appears to contradict the claims of Jesus Christ that says it's not possible to worship both Mammon and God at the same time."

--Mohatma Gandhi.

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

discrimination and bigotry and intentional ignorance always gets to me.

surely you've noticed that's where my passion (and compassion) lies

Originally Posted by caconservative

Its angry.

Originally Posted by Sensible

You are bigoted toward any person who doesn't think exactly like you, especially Christians.