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Old October 16th, 2017, 01:17 AM   #61
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Read post #42.
And in #42 you don't address any of the objections to the disease explanation for the more than 90% dieoff of indigenous populations raised by an actual historian. It's just more of your repeating the same old lazy anecdotes Ive heard so many times before.
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You'd think someone about to make bold, declarative statements would at least make a quick check on Wikipedia to make sure their whole argument doesn't fall apart!
*it's also worth noting that it was no sign of weakness that natives of this continent didn't have immunity to these diseases, because the lethal diseases imported from Europeans were animal-born diseases that occasionally jump species and infect humans. Living with the animals you later eat for food increases disease risks, while hunting does not...simple as that! So, growing mostly corn, beans and squash and hunting deer, bison and small game was a healthier lifestyle than the one Europeans brought over and imposed here.
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You have your shit together. It's a miracle that you aren't banned.
Some of the people busting your chops are mods on other boards. They have banned people for far less than what you and I were allowed to say here.

The thing that amazes me is that some of these guys go looking for the fight and when faced with the facts, all they have are tag team efforts and insults.

For the people on the left to believe that the average colonist would deliberately kill Indians is as much a racist postulate as anything white supremacists could conjure up and post on these boards.
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You'd think someone about to make bold, declarative statements would at least make a quick check on Wikipedia to make sure their whole argument doesn't fall apart!
*it's also worth noting that it was no sign of weakness that natives of this continent didn't have immunity to these diseases, because the lethal diseases imported from Europeans were animal-born diseases that occasionally jump species and infect humans. Living with the animals you later eat for food increases disease risks, while hunting does not...simple as that! So, growing mostly corn, beans and squash and hunting deer, bison and small game was a healthier lifestyle than the one Europeans brought over and imposed here.
So, you're saying that millions of indigenous peoples of North America did NOT die of contagious diseases brought to the continent by invading Europeans???
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Simply put, secession was about economics and political power.
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It's not BS and I explained why. Read the posts.
Yes, you explained it. But you were wrong. I told you why.
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What the fuck do you think I just said?

"Bleeding" WAS the treatment that Washington died from.
What I think you said in post #51 was that people who had smallpox weren't afraid to handle infected blankets. But you were overstating people's knowledge of infectious diseases back then.
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And in #42 you don't address any of the objections to the disease explanation for the more than 90% dieoff of indigenous populations raised by an actual historian. It's just more of your repeating the same old lazy anecdotes Ive heard so many times before.
Oh. So you're going to tell me that 90% of the natives died off because of White people intentionally handing out infected blankets?
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You'd think someone about to make bold, declarative statements would at least make a quick check on Wikipedia to make sure their whole argument doesn't fall apart!
*it's also worth noting that it was no sign of weakness that natives of this continent didn't have immunity to these diseases, because the lethal diseases imported from Europeans were animal-born diseases that occasionally jump species and infect humans. Living with the animals you later eat for food increases disease risks, while hunting does not...simple as that! So, growing mostly corn, beans and squash and hunting deer, bison and small game was a healthier lifestyle than the one Europeans brought over and imposed here.
And what "lifestyle" does the BS you brought up mean? Civilization! I will take that over living like an animal any day.
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Oh. So you're going to tell me that 90% of the natives died off because of White people intentionally handing out infected blankets?
Yep.

This is literally 11th grade history.
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