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Old October 19th, 2017, 02:41 PM   #91
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Which is kinda where I was trying to lead you to lol.
The general population is not ready for selfgovernance. This is why i advocate for separating the states. More smaller, localized governments would have the ability to be more specified. Then we could just move to a place more suitable to our personal beliefs.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #92
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The general population is not ready for selfgovernance. This is why i advocate for separating the states. More smaller, localized governments would have the ability to be more specified. Then we could just move to a place more suitable to our personal beliefs.
I agree. Western society is just going to collapse on its own. Nothing we can do. Climate change, the rise of the alt-right, the division, it has to come crashing down eventually. I just try to work on myself and live my best life, w/o worrying about politics and all that other shit.

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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:08 PM   #93
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So, does that mean that most of Europe, in particular the Scandinavian countries are not under socialism or are you saying that they are totalitarian?

If neither, then you are totally and completely wrong - again.

So which way are you going to double down this time?
No, none of those countries are Socialist. Unless your going to introduce a new definition of the word Socialism.
Does the government own all business in those nations?
Does the government mandate employee owned business?

Its simple yes or no.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/dan...-not-socialist
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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #94
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No, none of those countries are Socialist. Unless your going to introduce a new definition of the word Socialism.
Does the government own all business in those nations?
Does the government mandate employee owned business?

Its simple yes or no.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/dan...-not-socialist
I'm still waiting for you to address those links I posted.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #95
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[QUOTE=Gordy;1105917]No they do not:

Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown ? Foreign Policy

Its an opinion piece that is another example of a third world country having coup after coup after coup. It offered nothing but opinion.
The best link yet. Now on this, you might have something. I will not deny neocons at work, but they are not to blame for every problem in every third world junta ran nation. Lets face it, Libya was not the jewel of freedom.
Hugo Chavez? Seriously? That guy was a fucking monster that was a thief.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:24 PM   #96
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Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown ? Foreign Policy


Its an opinion piece that is another example of a third world country having coup after coup after coup. It offered nothing but opinion.

The best link yet. Now on this, you might have something. I will not deny neocons at work, but they are not to blame for every problem in every third world junta ran nation. Lets face it, Libya was not the jewel of freedom.

Hugo Chavez? Seriously? That guy was a fucking monster that was a thief.
Nope. This is all documented. The US and other Western countries overthrow/interfere with governments that don't align with their interests. Therefore, the idea of "self-determination" is really a myth.

You didn't even say anything about that first link.

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Old October 19th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #97
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Demand for inquiry into France's role in assassination of African leader

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Besides the flat statement by the Compoaré group that they overthrew Sankara because he was annoying the French, many of the individuals who have carried out coups in Africa have been former French or French colonial army officers, and the involvement of French security services and business interests in such actions is well known. The CIA has also been involved in several coups, most notably in the overthrow of Congolese Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba in 1960 and of Ghanaian President Kwame Nkrumah in 1966. In each case, the leader overthrown and/or killed was seen as a threat to French, U.S. or other western business interests because of his progressive policies.
"Just another coup". What a fucking joke.
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Opinion piece with no factual proof. Look, it was a cruise missile fired by George Bush on 911.
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Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown ? Foreign Policy

44 years ago
That is the most recent date. Most of it is without facts to back any of it up. Its conjecture and opinion.
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The general population is not ready for selfgovernance. This is why i advocate for separating the states. More smaller, localized governments would have the ability to be more specified. Then we could just move to a place more suitable to our personal beliefs.
You are wrong. Take negroes. They were brought to a country through what should have been considered an illegal act. To right this illegal act, they need to be sent back to the countries where they came from. The same needs to be done whit what some would call ugly overpopulating illegal invader scab scum mexican. In short, separatism is the answer. (Not segregation) Then there would be no need for segregating the states as you bring up.
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