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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:18 PM   #41
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I grew up w/ Cambodians and Vietnamese who's families escaped those regimes. I have associates who still to this day help people escape from Vietnam. To hear these stories first hand would make you think differently i would assume.
My parents fled Nigeria, a capitalist country. Everybody who has been able to leave has told me how much of a corrupt and chaotic hell-hole it is. How it has so much resources, but everything is owned by an elite. How the government is in cahoots with multinational corporations to exploit the people who live there. How Chinese corporations only bring over Chinese ppl and relegate the locals to menial jobs.

That's capitalism. Whether you like it or not.

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It's great when it works, but all of these systems eventually fail.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:19 PM   #42
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Jesus, this Were The Nazis "Racist?" thread sure has hijacked royally.
We turned a racist thread into a constructive conversation. At least its not trump trump trump
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:21 PM   #43
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Capitalist countries lead the world in depression and suicide, but I'm supposed to believe that capitalism frees people. Why are these people, as "free" as they are, so miserable?
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Jesus, this Were The Nazis "Racist?" thread sure has hijacked royally.
Yea, we're not engaging with handydude's nonsense.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:23 PM   #45
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My parents fled Nigeria, a capitalist country. Everybody who has been able to leave has told me how much of a corrupt and chaotic hell-hole it is. How it has so much resources, but everything is owned by an elite. How the government is in cahoots with multinational corporations to exploit the people who live there. How Chinese corporations only bring over Chinese ppl and relegate the locals to menial jobs.

That's capitalism. Whether you like it or not.



It's great when it works, but all of these systems eventually fail.
Where did your family flee to?
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Old October 18th, 2017, 10:25 PM   #46
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Where did your family flee to?
To the US, and they'll be the first to tell you that it's only slightly better. They fled chaos and corruption, only to run into more corruption, racism, xenophobia, and chronic unemployment.

Great Britain funded the dictatorship that committed genocide against my ethnic group so they can protect their oil interests. The entire Nigerian Civil War was waged to protect the oil interests of outsiders. Nigeria was literally created for the purpose of extracting resources for outsiders. That's capitalism too.

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To the US, and they'll be the first to tell you that it's only slightly better. They fled chaos and corruption, only to run into more corruption, racism, xenophobia, and chronic unemployment.
That must have been difficult, but it seems like they pulled through. You're here. When did they come to the US from Nigeria? Was it direct? Or an extended journey? Please share.
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That must have been difficult, but it seems like they pulled through. You're here. When did they come to the US from Nigeria? Was it direct? Or an extended journey? Please share.
My dad came in the early 80s for school, got his Bachelors' and Masters and decided to stay. He went back home and married my mom, and brought her over here. My oldest brother was born a year later.
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My dad came in the early 80s for school, got his Bachelors' and Masters and decided to stay. He went back home and married my mom, and brought her over here. My oldest brother was born a year later.
Was Nigeria already in turmoil when he came for school? How did he manage to leave and finance the trip and education?
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I know. Somehow, that's Divine Justice.
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