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Old March 3rd, 2018, 01:48 PM   #51
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Omg, now its "honor and good manners"?!

In a racist, sexist, homophobic, world where white heterosexual cis-male privilege reigned supreme?

Doesnt sound like much honor or good manners to me.....
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Old March 3rd, 2018, 04:23 PM   #52
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I do think people were more agreeable. But we also had segregation. I live a few miles from the Black community and didn't even know there were Black people in the region until the students from a Black did a musical show at our school. They were wonderful and I gave them a standing ovation. I was the only who gave them a standing ovation.

When I spoke with my mother about the racial situation she explained Blacks should stay in there place. At that time, women also stayed in their place too. My mother worked her whole life and never got a decent wage.

I say the 1958 National Defense Education is destroying our democracy, but when it comes to sexism and racism, it improved our democracy. What I think is destructive is our lack of honor and good manners. I am sure there are good reasons for saying there was less racism and I think well-educated people would want to know the reasoning, and then perhaps disagree or agree with the reasoning. However, talking shit about someones is not the sign of being well educated nor civilized. Talking shit about others is nothing to brag about and nothing to pat each on the back for doing.

I'm sorry any notion that people were more "agreeable" or "well mannered" or "knew how to stay in their place" is purely a self delusion. The only reason blacks and liberal minded whites didn't stand up for themselves, was FEAR pure unadulterated, unmitigated FEAR. A black standing up for themselves,
or any white person standing up for them, was subject to losing everything, up to and including their lives. Being labeled an "uppity negro" white speak for "trouble maker" meant being not just fired from your current job, but finding yourself unemployable. NO ONE would hire you. Beatings were the norm. Having your home burned was common. Rape and murder was not off the table.

So sorry, but any pretense of manners was purely out of fear.
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Old March 3rd, 2018, 06:08 PM   #53
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I'm sorry any notion that people were more "agreeable" or "well mannered" or "knew how to stay in their place" is purely a self delusion. The only reason blacks and liberal minded whites didn't stand up for themselves, was FEAR pure unadulterated, unmitigated FEAR. A black standing up for themselves,
or any white person standing up for them, was subject to losing everything, up to and including their lives. Being labeled an "uppity negro" white speak for "trouble maker" meant being not just fired from your current job, but finding yourself unemployable. NO ONE would hire you. Beatings were the norm. Having your home burned was common. Rape and murder was not off the table.

So sorry, but any pretense of manners was purely out of fear.
Thank you.

Unfortunately, now you will get labeled as being disrespectful

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Old March 4th, 2018, 04:19 AM   #54
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The truth I experienced does not mean the truth you talk about was not so, and I would not say what you said was not true. However, the whole world was not the same. Not even the states within the united states were the same. My grandmother could not buy her own home without a man signing for it because she was a woman. As a divorced teacher she could not work in the city limits and to move her family to a rural community. Women were not hired to do men's work, and could not enter some colleges. My family is White. The rules were the rules and we set our expectations accordingly. This fact could support the notion that there was less racism without making that exactly so.
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This thread is based on such an absurd and obviously inaccurate supposition, I wish there were a way one could just "ignore" a thread! Everytime I see the damned title, I can't stop myself from reading what new idiocy has been posted. Then I get pissed off.

Whew. I feel so much better now.

Back to your regular scheduled idiot thread postings. :P
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There was less racism in many places. No need to be racist as long black folk knew their place.

Think about it
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There was less racism in many places. No need to be racist as long black folk knew their place.

Think about it
That post is racist as fuck.
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Think about it
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That post is racist as fuck.
I knew the part where I said think about it was probably going to be a bit much. So, let me explain it to you.

No need to be racist as long as black folk knew their place.

What was that place? Segregation. I hope I do not have to explain that.

So, as long as black folk knew their place, was no need to be racist toward them. Now, here is the think about it part

In order for black folk to know their place, there had to be a racist system of subjugation in place to begin with. So, where segregation was attacked or questioned, then you saw the visible outward signs of racism such as nigger get out spray painted, lynchings or police brutality.

So, think about it..
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I knew the part where I said think about it was probably going to be a bit much. So, let me explain it to you.

No need to be racist as long as black folk knew their place.

What was that place? Segregation. I hope I do not have to explain that.

So, as long as black folk knew their place, was no need to be racist toward them. Now, here is the think about it part

In order for black folk to know their place, there had to be a racist system of subjugation in place to begin with. So, where segregation was attacked or questioned, then you saw the visible outward signs of racism such as nigger get out spray painted, lynchings or police brutality.

So, think about it..
So what? that only shows systemic racism in its overt form. its still present, but a bit more covert. So really, that post was racist. Nobody should have to explain that at all.......

And the very idea that somehow people were less racist back then is all a bunch of bullshit, plain and simple.
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So what? that only shows systemic racism in its overt form. its still present, but a bit more covert. So really, that post was racist. Nobody should have to explain that at all.......

And the very idea that somehow people were less racist back then is all a bunch of bullshit, plain and simple.
Excuse me but my post was not racist. I explained it in detail without attacking you personally. Now, as a black man in my 50's, I think I have a bit of knowledge on this. Thanks for calling me racist. It demonstrates some more about you.
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