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Old February 25th, 2018, 08:50 AM   #11
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Why would you criticize him for his desire to push himself, instead of admiring him for that? And his experience with horses led to having a cavalry needed during the Spanish-Americans war.

We can all argue the glass is half empty or half. In the case of the Roosevelt's I can see some wrongs but also some important rights, and I am not so sure you or I could do any better? They were progressive leaders for their time.
Yah. On the US cavalry during the Spanish-American War - most of the Rough Riders' horses were left behind in FL (poor logistics), I think it was. To the point that only TR had a horse @ San Juan Hill - & he may have stolen glory from a US Black cavalry unit (also dismounted, I believe) that not-quite-rescued TR's unit. He later gave credit where credit was due, long after the fact - but the ink-stained wretches loved him, he was so much larger than life.

& James Bradley in The China mirage : the hidden history of American disaster in Asia, Little Brown & Company, c2015 - faults TR for essentially green-lighting Imperial Japan's designs upon Korea. Thus signaling that IJ would have a free hand in Korea (& Manchuria, & China, encouraging the IJ militarists who finally decided they could attack the US & most of the Western European colonial powers into the bargain).

So, yes, TR correctly discerned that Spain's empire was only loosely held & very vulnerable to military force. He failed to see that Imperial Japan was another empire in the making, & that the manly qualities he admired there would turn vicious - @ least in Western Civilization's notion of viciousness.
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First paragraph: got it.

Second paragraph: WTF?
Let me explain, because when MSM speaks on a revelation that goes all the way back to a revelation in the leftwing press of the 60's, that youth festivals in Europe back in the mid-50's to early 60's, were being organized by the CIA and political operatives like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzinski, were talking to, qualifying and recruiting young 'radicals' to spy on and inform authorities about radical leaders they wanted to track....and Gloria was one of those CIA assets:
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Gloria Steinem’s new book, “My Life on the Road,” recounts her life’s journeys and travels. Early reviews and profiles reveal incredible detail of Steinem’s barrier-breaking feminist role, liberal politics, romances, proclivities and style.

What is often missed, or mischaracterized, however, is the work she did as a CIA agent: Steinem was a spook.

CIA agents are tight-lipped, but Steinem spoke openly about her relationship to “The Agency” in the 1950s and ‘60s after a magazine revealed her employment by a CIA front organization, the Independent Research Service.

While popularly pilloried because of her paymaster, Steinem defended the CIA relationship, saying: “In my experience The Agency was completely different from its image; it was liberal, nonviolent and honorable.”

Less cloak and dagger and more a young, energetic, global representative for American values and freedom, Steinem leveraged her underwriting to attend international youth festivals organized and otherwise ideologically dominated by America’s adversaries.

Long before the formalized concept of soft power, Steinem personified and promoted abroad the vigor and progressive nature of the U.S. youth movement.

Strange as it may seem, Steinem’s personal views and CIA political goals aligned. Her brand of social revolution, promoted by American tax dollars, was meant to counter Soviet-sponsored revolutionary messaging. Public funds were intended to slow the Soviet scourge while showing America’s alternative democratic face.
The feminist was a spook - Chicago Tribune
The writer of this drivel in the Chicago Tribune then moves on to try to excuse "missteps by the agency in the much more dangerous post-cold war era, but Gloria had no choice other than open up about this part of her past.

From a document leaked to "Red Stockings Magazine":
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[ Gloria Steinem worked full-time for the CIA during the late 1950s and early 1960s, as director of the CIA-funded Independent Research Service. In a 1967 New York Times article Steinem is quoted as saying, "I was never asked to report on other Americans or assess foreign nationals I had met." This document, published by Redstockings in 1975, shows that if Steinem was telling the truth to the Times, it was only because the CIA didn't have to ask. ]
Festival Document

Director:
GLORIA M. STEINEM
Executive Officers:
DR. PAUL E. SIGMUND, JR.
LEONARD N. BEBCHICK

from Report on the Vienna Youth Festival,
Independent Research Service, 1961

SUPPLEMENT TO THE FIRST EDITION:
NOTES ON THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE EIGHTH FESTIVAL

This report on the Vienna Youth Festival has been compiled from information given out by the Festival's organizers, from articles in the international press, from reports of Austrian and other student and youth groups present in Vienna, and from the personal observations of Festival participants. The Independent Research Service, a privately-supported educational foundation which provides research on international subjects of interest to youth and students, has published this report in English, French, and Spanish in the hope that it will be useful both as a research document in future studies of the Communist youth movement and as an aid to groups and individuals deciding their attitude toward future festivals.
https://archive.is/20120903172144/ht...ion-9.1-57.722

From the New York Times archives- a report I believe was originally published in "Ramparts Magazine" in 1967:
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A New York freelance writer disclosed yesterday that the Central Intelligence Agency had supported a foundation that sent hundreds of Americans to World Youth Festivals in Vienna in 1959 and Helsinki, Finland, in 1962.
[Cartoon] Gloria Steinem, a 30-year-old graduate of Smith College, said the C.I.A. has been a major source of funds for the foundation, the Independence [sic -- Independent] Research Service, since its formation in 1958. Almost all of the young persons who received aid from the foundation did not know about the relationship with the intelligence agency, Miss Steinem said. Ironically, she said, many of the students who attended the festivals have been criticized as leftists. The festivals are supposed to be financed by contributions from national student unions, but are, in fact, largely supported by the Soviet Union.

Miss Steinem said she had become convinced that American students should participate in the World Youth Festivals after she spent two years in India.

"I came home in 1958 full of idealism and activism, to discover that very little was being done," she said. "Students were not taken seriously here before the civil rights movement, and private money receded at the mention of a Communist youth festival."

Hears of Funds

Miss Steinem said she had talked to some former officers of the National Student Association, who told her C.I.A. money might be available to finance American participation in the seventh postwar festival scheduled for Vienna in the summer of 1959.
The former association officers had had ties with the C.I.A. while serving the association, which last week conceded it had taken money from the intelligence agency since 1952.

"Far from being shocked by this involvement, I was happy to find some liberals in government in those days, who were far-sighted and cared enough to get Americans of all political views to the festival," Miss Steinem said. She noted that most Americans who had attended various festivals were sympathetic to Communist policies.

The Independence [sic] Research Service, originally called the Independent Service for Information on the Vienna Festival, was organized with headquarters in Cambridge, Mass. It concentrated, Miss Steinem said, on disseminating information about the festival and urging young persons who espoused flexible, but non-Communist, foreign policy views to attend.

Miss Steinem was a full-time employe of the service till following the Helsinki festival in 1962.

About 130 youths who had made contact with the foundation did attend, although few of them received significant financial help, Miss Steinem said.

Recruits for Festival

Before the Helsinki festival in 1962 the foundation again recruited young teachers, lawyers, scholars, linguists and journalists -- most of whom would consider themselves very liberal Democrats -- to attend.
The Independent Service financed a newspaper, a new [sic -- news?] bureau, cultural exhibits and two jazz clubs during the festival. However, its most important work was to convince youths from Asia, Africa and Latin America that some Americans understood their aspirations for national self-determination, Miss Steinem said.

Miss Steinem insisted that the C.I.A. had never tried to alter the policy of the foundation.

"I was never asked to report on other Americans or assess foreign nationals I had met," she said.

Miss Steinem noted that since the foundation was started in "the post-McCarthy era" the Federal Government could not openly finance the foundation. Overt government support would also have "alienated" youths from other countries who were suspicious of the United States, she said.

"The C.I.A.'s big mistake was not supplanting itself with private funds fast enough," she observed.
Gloria Steinem and the CIA

Ramparts..a radical anti-Vietnam War journal founded by journalist/antiwar activist- Robert Scheer is another one of those from the wayback machine that are long-defunct and a testament to a time of open journalism before the era when six megacorporations could monopolize media and the rest of us are left to swim through the internet looking for real news these days!

Anyway, Gloria wasn't the only person given a boost to a position of leadership and collaborated with the CIA and capitalist state authority to subvert liberation movements that authorities feared were working together to upset the system. And the reason why this is important is because the CIA, the FBI, the Neocons etc. won! Women's Liberation was replaced by the Feminist Movement...a movement that made no distinction of social class..if you're a woman, you can be a member. And no surprise, the causes of feminism stopped talking about war, poverty...rarely even discussed issues they were embarrassed by because of their neglect, like race issues...everything was about equal pay...even in the boardroom among the CEO's...every woman is supposed to be concerned with whether a woman CEO earns as much as her male contemporaries.

Does that female CEO feel inclined to give all the lesser privileged women help to advance themselves on the ladder of the income hierarchy? Well, I distinctly recall the first female CEO of Yahoo deciding to turn a small room next to her office into a nursery so she could bring her infant to work with her/while denying daycare or even family leave to other female employees with young children...so much for 'breaking through the glass ceiling!'

So, what I noticed that's especially changed from the 60's or mostly the 70's, is that no leading feminist or activist on any other causes...especially Black Liberation has a damn thing to say about America's foreign wars today; while back then, they tried to present a common front against the War, atomic bombs, third world poverty and a range of other issues outside their immediate target group.

This all makes what gets called "The Left" in America today a fragmented, fractured cabal of special interest groups that are backstabbed by the wealthy members of their so called 'left' group whenever they make their side business deals with the white men with the largest portions of money and power. As long as the 'left' in America is just this collection of interest groups that Democrats feel entitled to their votes, there is no way forward, just a continued drift towards militarism and threatening wars abroad/while increasing austerity at home.
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Yah. On the US cavalry during the Spanish-American War - most of the Rough Riders' horses were left behind in FL (poor logistics), I think it was. To the point that only TR had a horse @ San Juan Hill - & he may have stolen glory from a US Black cavalry unit (also dismounted, I believe) that not-quite-rescued TR's unit. He later gave credit where credit was due, long after the fact - but the ink-stained wretches loved him, he was so much larger than life.

& James Bradley in The China mirage : the hidden history of American disaster in Asia, Little Brown & Company, c2015 - faults TR for essentially green-lighting Imperial Japan's designs upon Korea. Thus signaling that IJ would have a free hand in Korea (& Manchuria, & China, encouraging the IJ militarists who finally decided they could attack the US & most of the Western European colonial powers into the bargain).

So, yes, TR correctly discerned that Spain's empire was only loosely held & very vulnerable to military force. He failed to see that Imperial Japan was another empire in the making, & that the manly qualities he admired there would turn vicious - @ least in Western Civilization's notion of viciousness.
We need another thread because this one is supposed to be about valuing women who uphold the traditional values and why these values are important to humanity.

Roosevelt killing animals and playing up to the manly image of the great warrior king/god is a completely different subject. I love this subject just as much as the matter of a woman's value, but this thread will not be comprehensive if we discuss the good and bad of the old male values here. Look for a thread about the ideal man, okay? I will get that started right now.
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We need another thread because this one is supposed to be about valuing women who uphold the traditional values and why these values are important to humanity.
I'll agree insofar as I see traditional values as the values that were universally shared prior to the rise of empires, marauding warriors etc. 4000 years ago.

It gets buried as insignificant in archaeology news but ancient cities prior to the rise of patriarchies had no walls or fortifications built to protect them. That absence tells a lot about how men and women lived together and how they interacted with other communities in the more distant past. I wish we could find those traditional values today.
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Right to Left, how well can we deal with paradox?

Our Statue of Liberty, Lady of Justice and Spirit of America are the three aspects of Athena, Athens patron goddess of Liberty, Justice and the defense of those who stand for liberty and justice. All these female icons carry the Sword of Justice and harken back to the Holy Grail stories and Mother Goddess. Historically female goddesses have gotten credit for our survival and for civilization.

What is a mystery is how we keep suppressing women and empowering aggressive males? These males always support a hierarchy of authority and power. They always cut deals that are unjust to the powerless, in favor of gaining power for themselves. They enslave other men and the injustice is not just against women. Mother Jones organized coal miners and prompted them to act like men, so they put their lives on the line for better working conditions and better pay. They are not the only union people who put their lives on the line and were opposed by police power protecting property rights.

All this is so confusing, but sure my love, we must stop fighting each other and unite. We must end the conflict between races and between men and women and between religious groups, and we must come to understand, democracy is about opposing that old hierarchy of authority and it is about rule by reason, not rule by authority over us. I love democracy and I love being a woman, and I have nothing against a man defending me. I will brandish a sword if I must, but only for liberty and justice, not for control of oil in the mid east or resources in undeveloped countries. Nor do I want to pay for a nuclear war. We must overcome and disperse the Military Industrial Complex, and remember Mother Nature will not tolerate being violated.
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Let me explain, because when MSM speaks on a revelation that goes all the way back to a revelation in the leftwing press of the 60's, that youth festivals in Europe back in the mid-50's to early 60's, were being organized by the CIA and political operatives like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzinski, were talking to, qualifying and recruiting young 'radicals' to spy on and inform authorities about radical leaders they wanted to track....and Gloria was one of those CIA assets:
The feminist was a spook - Chicago Tribune
The writer of this drivel in the Chicago Tribune then moves on to try to excuse "missteps by the agency in the much more dangerous post-cold war era, but Gloria had no choice other than open up about this part of her past.

From a document leaked to "Red Stockings Magazine":
https://archive.is/20120903172144/ht...ion-9.1-57.722

From the New York Times archives- a report I believe was originally published in "Ramparts Magazine" in 1967:
Gloria Steinem and the CIA

Ramparts..a radical anti-Vietnam War journal founded by journalist/antiwar activist- Robert Scheer is another one of those from the wayback machine that are long-defunct and a testament to a time of open journalism before the era when six megacorporations could monopolize media and the rest of us are left to swim through the internet looking for real news these days!

Anyway, Gloria wasn't the only person given a boost to a position of leadership and collaborated with the CIA and capitalist state authority to subvert liberation movements that authorities feared were working together to upset the system. And the reason why this is important is because the CIA, the FBI, the Neocons etc. won! Women's Liberation was replaced by the Feminist Movement...a movement that made no distinction of social class..if you're a woman, you can be a member. And no surprise, the causes of feminism stopped talking about war, poverty...rarely even discussed issues they were embarrassed by because of their neglect, like race issues...everything was about equal pay...even in the boardroom among the CEO's...every woman is supposed to be concerned with whether a woman CEO earns as much as her male contemporaries.

Does that female CEO feel inclined to give all the lesser privileged women help to advance themselves on the ladder of the income hierarchy? Well, I distinctly recall the first female CEO of Yahoo deciding to turn a small room next to her office into a nursery so she could bring her infant to work with her/while denying daycare or even family leave to other female employees with young children...so much for 'breaking through the glass ceiling!'

So, what I noticed that's especially changed from the 60's or mostly the 70's, is that no leading feminist or activist on any other causes...especially Black Liberation has a damn thing to say about America's foreign wars today; while back then, they tried to present a common front against the War, atomic bombs, third world poverty and a range of other issues outside their immediate target group.

This all makes what gets called "The Left" in America today a fragmented, fractured cabal of special interest groups that are backstabbed by the wealthy members of their so called 'left' group whenever they make their side business deals with the white men with the largest portions of money and power. As long as the 'left' in America is just this collection of interest groups that Democrats feel entitled to their votes, there is no way forward, just a continued drift towards militarism and threatening wars abroad/while increasing austerity at home.
Ummmmm, feminists are concerned with race, poverty, war, the environment, healthcare, privilege, LGBTQ, all kinds of things you have conveniently decided to ignore. Or maybe you just dont know anything about feminists..............
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Let me explain, because when MSM speaks on a revelation that goes all the way back to a revelation in the leftwing press of the 60's, that youth festivals in Europe back in the mid-50's to early 60's, were being organized by the CIA and political operatives like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzinski, were talking to, qualifying and recruiting young 'radicals' to spy on and inform authorities about radical leaders they wanted to track....and Gloria was one of those CIA assets:
The feminist was a spook - Chicago Tribune
The writer of this drivel in the Chicago Tribune then moves on to try to excuse "missteps by the agency in the much more dangerous post-cold war era, but Gloria had no choice other than open up about this part of her past.

From a document leaked to "Red Stockings Magazine":
https://archive.is/20120903172144/ht...ion-9.1-57.722

From the New York Times archives- a report I believe was originally published in "Ramparts Magazine" in 1967:
Gloria Steinem and the CIA

Ramparts..a radical anti-Vietnam War journal founded by journalist/antiwar activist- Robert Scheer is another one of those from the wayback machine that are long-defunct and a testament to a time of open journalism before the era when six megacorporations could monopolize media and the rest of us are left to swim through the internet looking for real news these days!

Anyway, Gloria wasn't the only person given a boost to a position of leadership and collaborated with the CIA and capitalist state authority to subvert liberation movements that authorities feared were working together to upset the system. And the reason why this is important is because the CIA, the FBI, the Neocons etc. won! Women's Liberation was replaced by the Feminist Movement...a movement that made no distinction of social class..if you're a woman, you can be a member. And no surprise, the causes of feminism stopped talking about war, poverty...rarely even discussed issues they were embarrassed by because of their neglect, like race issues...everything was about equal pay...even in the boardroom among the CEO's...every woman is supposed to be concerned with whether a woman CEO earns as much as her male contemporaries.

Does that female CEO feel inclined to give all the lesser privileged women help to advance themselves on the ladder of the income hierarchy? Well, I distinctly recall the first female CEO of Yahoo deciding to turn a small room next to her office into a nursery so she could bring her infant to work with her/while denying daycare or even family leave to other female employees with young children...so much for 'breaking through the glass ceiling!'

So, what I noticed that's especially changed from the 60's or mostly the 70's, is that no leading feminist or activist on any other causes...especially Black Liberation has a damn thing to say about America's foreign wars today; while back then, they tried to present a common front against the War, atomic bombs, third world poverty and a range of other issues outside their immediate target group.

This all makes what gets called "The Left" in America today a fragmented, fractured cabal of special interest groups that are backstabbed by the wealthy members of their so called 'left' group whenever they make their side business deals with the white men with the largest portions of money and power. As long as the 'left' in America is just this collection of interest groups that Democrats feel entitled to their votes, there is no way forward, just a continued drift towards militarism and threatening wars abroad/while increasing austerity at home.
This absolutely has to become its own thread! Please, take care of this as soon as possible and PM me. A high tech military does not need our sons and it does not need patriotic citizens. It only needs our money. Liberating women doubled the work force and the Military Industrial Complex and banks profited while families lost. The efforts to control are far greater than what you mentioned. I have so much to say, please open the thread.
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Ummmmm, feminists are concerned with race, poverty, war, the environment, healthcare, privilege, LGBTQ, all kinds of things you have conveniently decided to ignore. Or maybe you just dont know anything about feminists..............
Check yourself for that negative reaction to what right to left said. Right to left provided valuable information and if all you see is a reason to defend feminist, something is wrong. Right to left is not an enemy of feminists values and neither am I. But there is poison in the kool-aid. There is a Military Industrial Complex cause behind a women's liberation that devalues women exactly as the communist "liberated" women in the USSR by saying the woman who stays at home to care for her family, is a nonproductive member of society.

The campaign against homemakers in the USSR and US had the same effect. At first, it doubled the economy and workforce. Then increasingly the abortion and divorce rates climbed, and increasingly more women and children fall below the level of poverty. In the capitalist US the cost of living increased and made two paychecks essential to the middle-class standard of living and now these people are losing ground. We can add to that the increase of women and children involved in crime both as victims and perpetrators. We now have homeless that involves women and children like the Great Depression caused homelessness.

We have become extremely intolerant of people who error (as we all do) or need assistance, instead of saying "There but for the grace of God go I" and being charitable in thought and deed. We are punishing youths as adults, despite the science the proves their brains are having a judgment problem because of hormones and incomplete development and in some cases stress toxicity.

What is happening is not good for humanity and it is not the people who decided this change is what we want. The people don't know what happened, nor why. It is directly associated with the 1958 National Defense Education Act, and the establishment of the Military Industrial Complex.

A lot of good can come out of what has happened, but this is less likely if people are not aware of what happened and why. We are in a race against ourselves. We may self-destruct or realize a new Golden Age.
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Check yourself for that negative reaction to what right to left said. Right to left provided valuable information and if all you see is a reason to defend feminist, something is wrong. Right to left is not an enemy of feminists values and neither am I. But there is poison in the kool-aid. There is a Military Industrial Complex cause behind a women's liberation that devalues women exactly as the communist "liberated" women in the USSR by saying the woman who stays at home to care for her family, is a nonproductive member of society.

The campaign against homemakers in the USSR and US had the same effect. At first, it doubled the economy and workforce. Then increasingly the abortion and divorce rates climbed, and increasingly more women and children fall below the level of poverty. In the capitalist US the cost of living increased and made two paychecks essential to the middle-class standard of living and now these people are losing ground. We can add to that the increase of women and children involved in crime both as victims and perpetrators. We now have homeless that involves women and children like the Great Depression caused homelessness.

We have become extremely intolerant of people who error (as we all do) or need assistance, instead of saying "There but for the grace of God go I" and being charitable in thought and deed. We are punishing youths as adults, despite the science the proves their brains are having a judgment problem because of hormones and incomplete development and in some cases stress toxicity.

What is happening is not good for humanity and it is not the people who decided this change is what we want. The people don't know what happened, nor why. It is directly associated with the 1958 National Defense Education Act, and the establishment of the Military Industrial Complex.

A lot of good can come out of what has happened, but this is less likely if people are not aware of what happened and why. We are in a race against ourselves. We may self-destruct or realize a new Golden Age.
What?

No seriously, I dont see the connection you are trying to make, especially since there are so many other things that have affected the earning power or the middle and working classes. Seriously, trying to tie feminism in with the decline in wages and the military industrial complex is a very very very big stretch.

I am not even joking.
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I'm glad I married a girl who knows herself in 1960. Strong, intelligent, independent, very loving, very loyal, very good mother, very good home maker for forty years and then went to work.............She is 75 and I am 78 years old been married 57 years, don't seem like 5 years.......
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