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Old March 2nd, 2018, 11:07 AM   #41
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I wasnt talking about billionaire women, i was talking about the many many many times more feminists and women doing all that hard work. You are the one that wants to make it about figurehead politicians and elitists, not me. The fact you cant see that is probably why you are so blind to it.

This "ignorant uniformed college shit" just might know what she is talking about............


RtoL just lost his credibility AND his argument. That last comment says much more about RtoL than it does about you, Lyzza. Only arrogant know-it-alls make comments like that. Anyone on DTT who CLAIMS to know your intelligence level, lifestyle or background is full of it....and if they DO KNOW and make it public?? They are worse than I thought.

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Old March 2nd, 2018, 11:11 AM   #42
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RtoL just lost his credibility AND his argument. That last comment says much more about RtoL than it does about you, Lyzza. Only arrogant know-it-alls make comments like that. Anyone on DTT who CLAIMS to know your intelligence level, lifestyle or background is full of it....and if they DO KNOW and make it public?? They are worse than I thought.

Hang in there.
I don't give a crap if you're offended! I don't get personal until I get subjected to personal abuse first, and I'm not going to make exceptions for your friends and I didn't come here to join your or any other team. Most of what passes for discussion and debate here is just crap-throwing from left to right or right to left!
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I don't give a crap if you're offended! I don't get personal until I get subjected to personal abuse first, and I'm not going to make exceptions for your friends and I didn't come here to join your or any other team. Most of what passes for discussion and debate here is just crap-throwing from left to right or right to left!
Any you are the exemplar of total rationality and wisdom?

Give me a break.
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Old March 2nd, 2018, 02:33 PM   #44
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I don't give a crap if you're offended! I don't get personal until I get subjected to personal abuse first, and I'm not going to make exceptions for your friends and I didn't come here to join your or any other team. Most of what passes for discussion and debate here is just crap-throwing from left to right or right to left!


LOL! You can't possibly be Canadian. Canadians are very nice people.
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Old March 2nd, 2018, 07:15 PM   #45
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Any you are the exemplar of total rationality and wisdom?

Give me a break.
Did I claim to be? Any other logical fallacies you'd like to unload today?

And, this is the first time in recent memory you've actually responded directly to me instead of sniping at me second hand in a post you've made to one of your friends. What's the occasion?
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Old March 2nd, 2018, 07:26 PM   #46
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LOL! You can't possibly be Canadian. Canadians are very nice people.
Count that as a ridiculous stereotype! It all depends what part of Canada we're talking about here.

There's not a lot of cultural distinction between cities across English Canada and their corresponding American cities on the other side of the border!

This all seems to be a mini version of what's happening with liberal politics stateside: leftists are supposed to keep quiet and never criticize Democratic politicians or strategies...or risk being accused of being Russian collaborators!
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RtoL just lost his credibility AND his argument. That last comment says much more about RtoL than it does about you, Lyzza. Only arrogant know-it-alls make comments like that. Anyone on DTT who CLAIMS to know your intelligence level, lifestyle or background is full of it....and if they DO KNOW and make it public?? They are worse than I thought.

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I have not been to this thread for awhile and I have no idea what you are talking about, except it is not the topic of the thread. Rarely are the members of the forum the topic of threads. What you have said here appears to be gossip rather than reasoning.

Making an argument means repeating the point that someone made and you disagree with. Then state why you find fault in the reasoning, and what you think is better reasoning. Notice, this is always discussing the reasoning, not finding fault with the person who said something.

A good thing about following the rules of good argumentation is a person can come in at any point and read any post and know what people are talking about. The topic of this thread is reasons for thinking women's liberation has made it taboo to be feminine and has forced women out of their homes if they want to be full-time homemakers or not. Enslaving the women just men have been enslaved and that this is destructive to the family and community.

You might want to try again by stating right to left's point and why you disagree with it. Please, remember to be respectful as that is a universal law that prevents unpleasant social problems AND bad reasoning.
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Old March 5th, 2018, 04:56 AM   #49
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Give her a chance to explain her arguments instead of just jumping on some sentences you take offense to. My impression was her complaints were with how women just added job responsibilities to the other home responsibilities when they entered the workforce.
fwiw, much of the post-WWII push for women to be out in the workforce came right out of the business especially marketing communities...who felt that more women out working would mean large markets to sell products and services to. Understand that the 2nd wave of feminism wasn't all for good intentions.
Problem is the bad players were and never all called out...just like you never challenged or had anything to say about Steinem for example.
Thank you right to left. If women were doing the jobs they want to do and we had work conditions like France that is much more compatible with having a family life, or the benefits of other more civilized countries, I might not notice a problem with forcing women to work. In the US we have created a very ugly reality for ourselves.

When I was in college the professor gave us a problem to resolve. We were supposed to imagine we had been hired specifically to resolve this problem and say what we would do. The problem was a very high turn over in employees and far many too days of people not showing up for work.

A check of why there was such an employee problem revealed it was caused by people needing to care for their children. Well, as a child who grew up in poverty with a low paid mother overstressed by this reality and so afraid of losing her job if she gave any of her work time to me, of course, I thought the way to resolve the employee problem was a daycare and working with the parents.

The MALE professor said upper management didn't like that solution and asked me what I would do. I said I would follow through with the daycare because that was the only way to resolve the problem, and failing to resolve it would mean failure.

This MALE professor told his whole class, never question the higher authority. Always do what the higher authority wanted because failure to do so would not be good for our careers. If I were to start a revolution, I would start by colleges down. How anti-American to surrender my authority to an employer and follow a path of failure. That is not the meaning of our democracy. Ignoring the needs of families also leads to serious social failure.

So much for those who are arguing against me. They are not doing any better than the MALE professor. They did not ask the questions, nor attempt to understand my point of view, and I appreciate your mention of errors in logic.

How could anyone believe doubling the workforce does not lower wages? Or that doubling the number of people buying houses, does not raise the cost of housing? And the banks are making out like bandits. As we scramble to have the American dream, we feed into very serious problems, and I wish everyone would do less reacting and more thinking.
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Old March 5th, 2018, 04:59 AM   #50
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How about all the mothers struggling to survive and all the children who are not getting the care they need and maybe not even housing, food, medical care while their mothers are gone most the day working for a living? Teachers say these mothers just don't care. Do you believe that?

Being nice is important, but logic is essential.

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