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Old March 21st, 2018, 08:16 AM   #41
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Close.

Just remember, the West wasn't won by guys who eat tofu.
Nor was it won by guy's living in their mom's basement typing snotty posts to total strangers on the internet when not otherwise occupied eating Cheetos and playing video games.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 08:18 AM   #42
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“Soy Boy” is a pejorative which is often used in right-wing online communities to describe men lacking masculine characteristics, bearing many similarities to the slang term “cuck”. The term is based on the presence of phytoestrogens contained within soybeans, which have led some to conclude that soy products feminize men who consume them.

"Soy Boy" and "cuck" are part of the vocabulary used by tolerant right-wingers, like Sab.

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LOL, it certainly sounds retarded enough.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 08:19 AM   #43
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6. What is your understanding of settler colonialism and indigenous rights?

The embedded link mentions a few key points, but the worst evil goes back long before the 13 British colonies decided to revolt against the British Government. The patterns of ethnic cleansing and forced expulsions began when the colonies were being founded and gathering enough settlers with guns to force all natives beyond the Appalachian mountains. When the continentals determined they would need more land, they revolted against England's imposed law that forbid settlers from moving west and taking more Indian lands + there was a growing fear after a British high court decision that England would ban slavery in all of it's colonies. So, the killing, forced marches, increased slave populations all kept marching west to the Pacific.

Not even many liberals want to take a clear-eyed unvarnished look at US history, but sloughing off past horrors as "mistakes" explains a lot of the reasons today why more recent crimes like Hillary's Libya Operation and the illegal Invasion of Iraq that has caused over one million casualties are similarly referred to as "mistakes" now/ rather than the term they should be called: War Crimes!

Still, it's not likely even the 7th subject that's going to come up in a dating conversation...unless one or both parties are indigenous.

7. Do you think capitalism is exploitative?

Glad to see even more mainstream critics realize capitalism is both anti-democratic and exploitative. Liberals have tried to buff off the rough edges of capitalism through taxation and regulation policies for decades! But now even the so called opposition parties in the US and other western nations have given up that fight and are co-opted by the dirty money from capitalists demanding no regulations and no taxes on their class. Time for something new!
8. Can any human be illegal?

Most Americans don't even realize that the Southwest is land stolen from Mexico as a result of a contrived war with a much weakened Mexico. The Spanish and natives were originally promised that their language and cultures would be allowed...but those rights were slowly chipped away. The big break was after WWII when, with the arrival of air conditioning, a flood of white settlers from the east moved in to cities like Phoenix...which only had a population of 50,000 at the outbreak of WWII. These are the people who do the most and loudest screaming about ILLEGAL immigrants today! It seems similar to Israeli settlers in the West Bank who after a generation or two act like it's been their land all along!

9. Do you support Muslim Americans and non-Muslim people from Islamic countries?

Kind of ironic that at a time when there's an epidemic of rightwing white male terrorist attacks in America, it goes mostly unreported...did anyone here know about the Austin Bombings prior to the 3rd? Or more likely the 4th recently since a suspect has been apprehended. The reason it took an entire month and three bombings to make the national news was because they were happening to blacks living in mostly black neighborhoods of Austin. If there was an Arab suspect...or any suspect with a beard, and the bombs went off in a white suburb or gentrified city neighborhood, CNN would have taken a break from their Putin roundtable and have given 24/7 coverage to streets being patrolled by National Guard troops.

The pattern for years now has been US governments supporting Islamic theocrats as allies, proxy armies and yes, even supporting terrorist attacks against their targets/ while out of the other side of their mouths, demanding that Muslims be peaceful! On balance, Muslims here and even in their own countries are trying to live peacefully, In spite of the interference and hostility directed their way.

10. Does your allyship include disabled folks?

One thing we have to do is to make sure all levels of government maintain funding for access and services needed by disabled of different types to go about their lives. Most of the things disabled people complain about is people staring or asking them stupid questions...but most are used to that after awhile.
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6. What is your understanding of settler colonialism and indigenous rights?

The embedded link mentions a few key points, but the worst evil goes back long before the 13 British colonies decided to revolt against the British Government. The patterns of ethnic cleansing and forced expulsions began when the colonies were being founded and gathering enough settlers with guns to force all natives beyond the Appalachian mountains. When the continentals determined they would need more land, they revolted against England's imposed law that forbid settlers from moving west and taking more Indian lands + there was a growing fear after a British high court decision that England would ban slavery in all of it's colonies. So, the killing, forced marches, increased slave populations all kept marching west to the Pacific.

Not even many liberals want to take a clear-eyed unvarnished look at US history, but sloughing off past horrors as "mistakes" explains a lot of the reasons today why more recent crimes like Hillary's Libya Operation and the illegal Invasion of Iraq that has caused over one million casualties are similarly referred to as "mistakes" now/ rather than the term they should be called: War Crimes!

Still, it's not likely even the 7th subject that's going to come up in a dating conversation...unless one or both parties are indigenous.

7. Do you think capitalism is exploitative?

Glad to see even more mainstream critics realize capitalism is both anti-democratic and exploitative. Liberals have tried to buff off the rough edges of capitalism through taxation and regulation policies for decades! But now even the so called opposition parties in the US and other western nations have given up that fight and are co-opted by the dirty money from capitalists demanding no regulations and no taxes on their class. Time for something new!
8. Can any human be illegal?

Most Americans don't even realize that the Southwest is land stolen from Mexico as a result of a contrived war with a much weakened Mexico. The Spanish and natives were originally promised that their language and cultures would be allowed...but those rights were slowly chipped away. The big break was after WWII when, with the arrival of air conditioning, a flood of white settlers from the east moved in to cities like Phoenix...which only had a population of 50,000 at the outbreak of WWII. These are the people who do the most and loudest screaming about ILLEGAL immigrants today! It seems similar to Israeli settlers in the West Bank who after a generation or two act like it's been their land all along!

9. Do you support Muslim Americans and non-Muslim people from Islamic countries?

Kind of ironic that at a time when there's an epidemic of rightwing white male terrorist attacks in America, it goes mostly unreported...did anyone here know about the Austin Bombings prior to the 3rd? Or more likely the 4th recently since a suspect has been apprehended. The reason it took an entire month and three bombings to make the national news was because they were happening to blacks living in mostly black neighborhoods of Austin. If there was an Arab suspect...or any suspect with a beard, and the bombs went off in a white suburb or gentrified city neighborhood, CNN would have taken a break from their Putin roundtable and have given 24/7 coverage to streets being patrolled by National Guard troops.

The pattern for years now has been US governments supporting Islamic theocrats as allies, proxy armies and yes, even supporting terrorist attacks against their targets/ while out of the other side of their mouths, demanding that Muslims be peaceful! On balance, Muslims here and even in their own countries are trying to live peacefully, In spite of the interference and hostility directed their way.

10. Does your allyship include disabled folks?

One thing we have to do is to make sure all levels of government maintain funding for access and services needed by disabled of different types to go about their lives. Most of the things disabled people complain about is people staring or asking them stupid questions...but most are used to that after awhile.
You are wonderful, and you actually understand the importance of these issues!

And yeah, this isnt just about dating, but making sure that you are with a like minded person. many of us feminists are very active in these and other issues, and we dont need to waste time with partners who take from that energy.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 08:50 AM   #45
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The child is too busy to answer, H. A soy boy is the newest, hottest, hippest RW slur. It's used to slam a guy's manliness. I think it refers to a lack of masculine qualities or short-hand for "feminized" men who fail to adhere to the alt-right's notion of masculinity. Maybe the RW is running out of minorities, gays and women to slander??

I guess the soy boys eat too much quiche. Thoughts?
My guess is RW, and Alt-right aren't meant as compliments to people who you disagree with, and are meant as slurs.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 10:52 AM   #46
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It isnt my list, but these are important issues. changing for the better does not mean giving in on things that are important to you.
Those changes aren't for the better, you just think they are because like I said, you're crazy. The good news is that's (probably) due to social pressure and indoctrination, so I'm sure there is hope for you.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 12:30 PM   #47
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The child is too busy to answer, H. A soy boy is the newest, hottest, hippest RW slur. It's used to slam a guy's manliness. I think it refers to a lack of masculine qualities or short-hand for "feminized" men who fail to adhere to the alt-right's notion of masculinity. Maybe the RW is running out of minorities, gays and women to slander??

I guess the soy boys eat too much quiche. Thoughts?

I have learned responding to that one is an epic waste of time.

There is a direct correlation between the ingestion of soy and increased levels of estrogen in men. So it is very, very likely that the use of soy formula on male infants fould be the leading cause of the giant growth of effeminate males. See man boobs.

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There is a direct correlation between the ingestion of soy and increased levels of estrogen in men. So it is very, very likely that the use of soy formula on male infants fould be the leading cause of the giant growth of effeminate males. See man boobs.
@Sabcat

Although I agree with (much of) the generalized concept motivating the label you discussed, I would challenge your view of 'soy' as it relates to 'veganism' & health, fitness, ect. more generally. Personally, I am 6'2"-6'3" 230lb guy with low bf%, have worked as a security guard for several years, and have been 'vegan' for 4+ years. Initially, when I switched I was somewhat concerned about the potential claimed nutritional deficits which could lead to decline in cognitive, athletic, ect. performance, loss of muscle mass, ect. However, I quickly realized there was no functional difference (that I can determine, at least). I still am able to make progress both intellectually, and athletically, without hindrance from diet. People who know me in real life are always very surprised if/when they find out that I am 'vegan', as it significantly breaks the stereotype they have in their mind of 'vegans' (and what is 'physically possible' on such a diet)

Perhaps, this all a topic for a separate Thread another time, though.
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I have learned responding to that one is an epic waste of time.

There is a direct correlation between the ingestion of soy and increased levels of estrogen in men. So it is very, very likely that the use of soy formula on male infants fould be the leading cause of the giant growth of effeminate males. See man boobs.

Got it!! On all counts.

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Got it!! On all counts.

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