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Old March 25th, 2018, 03:06 AM   #11
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We have two different issues. The OP could have been more clear what issue was being talked about.

1. Both Wal-Mart and Dick’s have discontinued sales of AR-15s and other “assault” weapons. This policy does not discriminate.

2. Both Wal-Mart and Dick’s have announced they will no longer sell any firearms to anyone under the age of 21. This policy, in my opinion, is discriminatory. If someone who, under the law, is legally able to purchase a weapon and is refused based solely on age then I think that runs afoul of age discrimination laws. This is not the same thing as denying tobacco or alcohol based on age since there are laws that put those age limits in place.
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Old March 25th, 2018, 04:00 AM   #12
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Can anyone explain to me the ATFE (liked ATF better but here we are) to me? Their three main core enforcement is Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Really the first two are interesting since both products are already legal and heavily regulated. There is a small niche market for illegal moonshine, but usually it's a matter for the local police, although the moonshine makers are also tax evaders for illegal proceeds.

Tobacco? What is the enforcement on it besides kids under 18 smoking? Is there an illegal market for tobacco? I would like to smuggle cigarettes from Chna for less than a dollar a pack to a wholesaler who sells them online or on the street. But I do not wish to be a Felon for such a scheme. But still, is illegal importation of tobacco a really huge issue?

Firearms and Explosives I understand completely.
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Old March 25th, 2018, 04:05 AM   #13
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Can anyone explain to me the ATFE (liked ATF better but here we are) to me? Their three main core enforcement is Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Really the first two are interesting since both products are already legal and heavily regulated. There is a small niche market for illegal moonshine, but usually it's a matter for the local police, although the moonshine makers are also tax evaders for illegal proceeds.

Tobacco? What is the enforcement on it besides kids under 18 smoking? Is there an illegal market for tobacco? I would like to smuggle cigarettes from Chna for less than a dollar a pack to a wholesaler who sells them online or on the street. But I do not wish to be a Felon for such a scheme. But still, is illegal importation of tobacco a really huge issue?

Firearms and Explosives I understand completely.
I believe the tobacco arm of the department is mostly involved with the taxation of cigarettes and the enforcement of the tax "stamp" on the individual packs of cigarettes.
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Old March 25th, 2018, 02:58 PM   #14
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Like alcohol and tobacco.
But that is enforced by law, not just a store policy.
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Old March 25th, 2018, 03:04 PM   #15
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But that is enforced by law, not just a store policy.
Nope, cigarettes are legal. A couple of years ago CVS decided to no longer sell them. They had every right to make that decision just like Dickís and Wal Mart does.
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Nope, cigarettes are legal. A couple of years ago CVS decided to no longer sell them. They had every right to make that decision just like Dickís and Wal Mart does.
What does that have to do with barring someone from purchasing something arbitrarily due to their age without a law that says that?
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What does that have to do with barring someone from purchasing something arbitrarily due to their age without a law that says that?
What does that have to do with post #1 ?
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What does that have to do with post #1 ?
Everything
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Old March 25th, 2018, 05:07 PM   #19
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If these stores can choose who can buy what from them, then so should Christian bakers , florists, or photographers.
If the Christian Baker decides not to sell wedding cakes to anyone, it would be the same.

If Walmart decided not to sell AR-15s to gay couples, but continued to sell them to homicidal maniacs, it would be the same.

But it's nothing like the same.....
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But that is enforced by law, not just a store policy.
OMFG, like stores have never decided to stop carrying your favorite moisturizer, lipstick or even shampoo. grow up and get a grip.
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