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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:11 PM   #21
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So this has happened on "just about every forum you have been at"?
A logical conclusion would recognize the common factor in all this is you...
At some point one would hope that you could realize you have an improper expectation...

You need to grasp a few facts here...
First, the first amendment's free speech applies to the government. The government cannot restrict your free speech.
This site isn't run by the government.
Moreover, the owner of this site pays money to keep it going. This isn't a business so don't even try whining about anti-discrimination laws.
You're basically demanding to utilize the owner's resource for your own personal choices...
It's a bit like demanding a newspaper allow you unfettered printing in their paper to argue what you think is truth, otherwise it's supposedly a violation of your civil rights...
That's nonsense.

Both the right and the left are posting on this forum.
Quite frankly, it's you who is posing something problematic...

I would love to see you answer BubbaJones's questions.
First, there is nothing wrong with me. It is them. Next, you can disagree all you want. But if there is something that it is wrong for a government to do, it should apply to those the government rules. Next, can you at least aknowledge the possibility that the reason the owner of this site pays money to keep it going is, in part at least, to supress what people have to say? Next, is this forum's "business" to let anybody join and say what is on their mind? In that, I am doing nothing that isn't intended. Next, I can go into a newspaper office, ask to speak to a reporter and tell them what is on my mind. If they think it is important, they can print it in some article that they, not I, would write. So what you say in that regard is nonsense. As to bubbajones question, read post #19.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:12 PM   #22
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Read post #10.
I did, it was completely ignorant. Try to sue this site for violating you rights. You'll be laughed out of court.

You have no idea how this country works, no clue as to what our constitution means and certainly no clue how to be a decent human being.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:15 PM   #23
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And this is codified in the first amendment.



Yes.
Because "WE THE PEOPLE" run the government. It cannot be used as a tool to silence people.
But individuals have rights. And your right to "speech" ends where you ask that the speech has to be allowed, uncensored ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
i.e. this web-site.



ROFLMAO!!!
I find it funny how right-wingers will often scream that things aren't written in the constitution exactly as discussed.
But here, you want to pretend that the absence of a restriction on people shouldn't mean anything.

Here's a history lesson for you...
THE ENTIRE BILL OF RIGHTS was written as a restriction on the government. The founding fathers had just gotten finished establishing a variety of powers that the federal government could do.
And then the Bill of Rights explains a variety of things that the federal government cannot do.

Your failure to recognize this context is a little amusing but also calls into question your education.



And you have the capability to express your truth on your property.
You have no right to demand other people use their property for you to say whatever you like.



Your beliefs on what constitutes "ethical" isn't really relevant.
It's the home-owners right to do so for whatever reason they choose.

And I find it funny you actually responded to that analogy, cause I am curious as to how many forum "homes" have you been kicked out of...
I have found nothing in what you said here that is worth replying to. Or that I haven't answered elsewhere. Believe what you will.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:18 PM   #24
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It would be very bad for a government to declare bankruptcy. But some people have done it six times



https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.ce331deec4dc

And they bragged that it was a brilliant move.

I'm mentioning this because you know, it might happen the way things are going.
The people who declare bankruptcy don't collect taxes. Also, I think it was Regan who made declaring bankruptcy more difficult for people to do. Maybe he wanted to go back to the "good old days" of actual debtors prisions.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:27 PM   #25
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I did, it was completely ignorant. Try to sue this site for violating you rights. You'll be laughed out of court.

You have no idea how this country works, no clue as to what our constitution means and certainly no clue how to be a decent human being.
if you want a reply from me, you are going to have to be more specific about what you found to be ignorant. Next, if this site was held to the same rules as the government does, I could successfully sue it. As to being a decent human being, you have no idea what that is. If I tried to tell you what you actually are guilty of, this forum would almost certainly ban me.

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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:33 PM   #26
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The people who declare bankruptcy don't collect taxes. Also, I think it was Regan who made declaring bankruptcy more difficult for people to do. Maybe he wanted to go back to the "good old days" of actual debtors prisions.
My point is, private people (or corporations) and the government are legally different entities.

But also physically. The government couldn't per example sleep with Stormy Daniels and pay 130K hush money through a third party

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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:38 PM   #27
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if you want a reply from me, you are going to have to be more specific about what you found to be ignorant. Next, if this site was held to the same rules as the government does, I could successfully sue it. As to being a decent human being, you have no idea what that is. If I tries to tell you what you actually are guilty of, this forum would almost certainly ban me.
Here's a clue- if you want to say whatever you want to say, START YOUR OWN WEBSITE.

No website has to print everything you type. No website has to keep all your posts up for all to view. It's called freedom. If you don't like the way this country works- leave.

Otherwise-START YOUR OWN WEBSITE.

And here's what decent human being isn't- YOU.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 01:44 PM   #28
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First, there is nothing wrong with me. It is them.
First off, no.
You are demanding somebody else utilize their property for your liking. And you even had the gall to claim it was a "civil right".
This is not a business. It's entirely voluntary for whether or not the forum owner (or that owner's representatives) decide to let you do anything.


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Next, you can disagree all you want. But if there is something that it is wrong for a government to do, it should apply to those the government rules.
Again, no.
You are making up nonsense rules as you go along.


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Next, can you at least aknowledge the possibility that the reason the owner of this site pays money to keep it going is, in part at least, to supress what people have to say?
Are you five?
You seriously think that grownups pay out money to create forums just for the purpose of suppressing "what people have to say"???



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Next, is this forum's "business" to let anybody join and say what is on their mind?
First, it's not a "business". You are posting here for free just like everybody else.
Second, how many times do people have to show you there are limits.
You started out this thread admitting this has happened to you on multiple forums.


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In that, I am doing nothing that isn't intended. Next, I can go into a newspaper office, ask to speak to a reporter and tell them what is on my mind. If they think it is important, they can print it in some article that they, not I, would write. So what you say in that regard is nonsense.

Have you ever heard of editorials that people write and submit to the paper for the paper to consider for printing?


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I have found nothing in what you said here that is worth replying to
And that's part of the problem.
People have likely explained to you over and over and over again, but you don't feel their words have worth because you want things to be run according to rules you make up...
... and you completely fail to appreciate why things don't work that way.
You blindly discount those reasons...


Here's a thought for you.
If you want to see a forum run in a way that everybody's thoughts are displayed with no censorship or discrimination, then you pay the money to start and maintain such a forum.
Until then, you're just pissing and moaning that other people's money isn't spent to allow you to say whatever you want...
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Old July 7th, 2018, 01:03 PM   #29
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My point is, private people (or corporations) and the government are legally different entities.

But also physically. The government couldn't per example sleep with Stormy Daniels and pay 130K hush money through a third party

I don't care what kind of enties they are. If the government goes by a certain rule, those they rule should too. Also, when it comes to corruption, the Russians have a saying. "A fish rots from the head down." To at least some extent, I would have to belive that a fish can also rot from the tail up. By not holding the people to the same standards that the government follows, this is more likely to happen.
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Old July 7th, 2018, 01:33 PM   #30
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Here's a clue- if you want to say whatever you want to say, START YOUR OWN WEBSITE.

No website has to print everything you type. No website has to keep all your posts up for all to view. It's called freedom. If you don't like the way this country works- leave.

Otherwise-START YOUR OWN WEBSITE.

And here's what decent human being isn't- YOU.
I hate it when people hallucinate all over me. In the vast majority, only the wealthy have a voice in this country. Right and wrong doesn't matter to them. What makes money does. As for starting my own website, next thing you'll be telling me to do is start my own cable TV channel. But do you think any cable TV company is any more likely to carry my content than this forum is likely to let me say what I really think? Fat chance. Also, I'm not going anywhere. If I have cockroaches in my house, I get rid of the cockroaches. I don't let them make me move elsewhere.

Next, as far as being a decent human being goes, what if I told you that you were guilty of sucking baby penis. Deny it at your own risk. Also, what if I told you that you were partially responsible for the greatest genocide in human history. Deny that at your own risk as well. And believe me, it doesn't end there.
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