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Old July 11th, 2018, 03:45 AM   #61
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You are right. The U.S. government is not an American citizen. Basically, it is every American citizen. Next, something doesn't have to be written to make it true. For example, dinosaurs existed. No humans were needed to say they existed for them to exist. Listed or not listed, if there is something that it is wrong for a government to do, it should also be wrong for any citizens of that government to do also.

Next, that the consitution doesn't say that all citizens must do the same as the government says EVERYTHING. Also, I don't care if people laugh at me or whatever. That isn't punishing me. And if they try to disprove anything I say, that would likely change. (Unless they are just insane) The point is in having the freedom to say whatever.

Next, it seems we agree on something. The law is a load of crap. My opinion of why that is is because it is mainly written by the rich for the rich. Legal and ethical are indeed often two separate things.
When it comes down to law, it HAS to be written. That's the way that the law works. An officer can't come up and arrest you for having brown hair because he decided to make up that law that day. Some things don't have to be written to make them true, but that does not apply with law. It DOES have to be written to be true (and enforceable).

As a side note, when someone is giving you an example, you don't have to assume that the person believes that you would react the same way. The person upset because people laughed at him was an example. Another example would be a professional quarterback losing a sponsor because of something that he said. If the company does not want to be associated with that statement, they may choose to no longer pay the person. This is not an infringement of their civil rights.

Free speech does not mean free of consequences. It simple means free of consequences from the government.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 03:51 AM   #62
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When it comes down to law, it HAS to be written. That's the way that the law works. An officer can't come up and arrest you for having brown hair because he decided to make up that law that day.

Clearly you have limited experience with a cop who was fighting with his wife before punching in.

But in spirit you are obviously correct.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 05:27 AM   #63
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Clearly you have limited experience with a cop who was fighting with his wife before punching in.

But in spirit you are obviously correct.
But even then, the frustrated/angry officer has to find a law that is on the books to issue a ticket or arrest.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 05:35 AM   #64
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But even then, the frustrated/angry officer has to find a law that is on the books to issue a ticket or arrest.
Come on. They do this for a living. They know exactly what they can do and how to cover.

In a bad mood, beat a skinny kid with spray paint and claim he was resisting arrest. (this is really insidious as the charges are now much more serious)

tons of stuff like this takes place daily
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Come on. They do this for a living. They know exactly what they can do and how to cover.

In a bad mood, beat a skinny kid with spray paint and claim he was resisting arrest. (this is really insidious as the charges are now much more serious)

tons of stuff like this takes place daily
Agree that this happens. I also agree that there are officers that break the law. In claiming that he was resisting arrest he is utilizing WRITTEN LAW which was the point in the first place.

That said, it is good that most people walk around with cameras now. It makes officers more accountable.
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But even then, the frustrated/angry officer has to find a law that is on the books to issue a ticket or arrest.
Incorrect. You can be arrested and held for 72 hours without charges being brought. You can have your cash and asset's seized by civil forfeiture, all that it requires is a police officer to feel like it was asset's of drug trade. Lets not even begin with the pissing on the Constitution by the Patriot Act.
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If you have, as you said, been banned from multiple forums, you need to examine what YOU are doing wrong instead of saying that they are all wrong. If you are receiving the same result over and over, it is time to change your actions so you can get a different result.
A variation of Einstein's definition of insanity.
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I did not disagree. I pointed out you were mistaken.
What you said is goofy. I wish there was just an un-thanks button around here.

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You're the boy. Boy. Also, these days it seems that most women are lesbians. And if they want a guy, they would prefer hin to be as much of a fag as possible. And failing that there are probably some pretty powerful vibrating dildos out there that would satisfy them better. And if they are white, there is an even easier solution. They can just let themselves go. There are countless nigers out ther who would still take them. g
You are too damned funny to dislike or argue with. You come off as a more angry, less coherent Lewis Black.
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