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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:34 AM   #81
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That is just absolutely silly. The government makes laws that apply to everyone. Should I as a private citizen be able to make laws that apply to everyone? The government builds jails and throws people in them when they break the laws. Should I be able to build a jail and imprison someone who breaks one of my laws? Your whole notion fails the test of logic.
The idea that the law applies to everyone is very recent. For most of America's history that was never the case. It's still not an universal idea in America today.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 12:50 PM   #82
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That is just absolutely silly. The government makes laws that apply to everyone. Should I as a private citizen be able to make laws that apply to everyone? The government builds jails and throws people in them when they break the laws. Should I be able to build a jail and imprison someone who breaks one of my laws? Your whole notion fails the test of logic.
And who exactly makes up the government? Lapdogs for the wealthy. Next "I" make the laws that apply to everybody. Just because I don't have the means to enforce them doesn't mean they they don't exist. Next, if you had the power to do so, you would be able to imprison somebody who breaks one of your laws. Is that logical enough?
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Old July 12th, 2018, 01:49 PM   #83
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And who exactly makes up the government? Lapdogs for the wealthy. Next "I" make the laws that apply to everybody. Just because I don't have the means to enforce them doesn't mean they they don't exist. Next, if you had the power to do so, you would be able to imprison somebody who breaks one of your laws. Is that logical enough?
No, it's completely insane.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:04 PM   #84
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And who exactly makes up the government? Lapdogs for the wealthy.
Where in the Constitution does it say that lapdogs for the wealthy make up the government?
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Next "I" make the laws that apply to everybody. Just because I don't have the means to enforce them doesn't mean they they don't exist.
That's right. You don't have the means to enforce them. But the government DOES have the means. The government is given powers and means that the citizen does not have. So your previous statement was not logical when you said "To which I say that if the government does it, private citizens should be able to do it too. Good or bad." Private citizens don't have the means, because they haven't been given the means. Because the government has been given so much power, the Bill of rights was added to make sure the government doesn't infringe on the rights of individuals. The government has to abide by the limitations contained in the Bill of Rights, but individual citizens are not bound by those limitations.
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Next, if you had the power to do so, you would be able to imprison somebody who breaks one of your laws. Is that logical enough?
If I had the power to do so, I could fly through the air and make myself invisible, but it's not logical to think I'd ever be able to do those things.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:28 PM   #85
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Where in the Constitution does it say that lapdogs for the wealthy make up the government?

It doesn't say "lapdogs", but it does specifically mention Dachshunds. It's in the footnotes.

That's right. You don't have the means to enforce them. But the government DOES have the means. The government is given powers and means that the citizen does not have. So your previous statement was not logical when you said "To which I say that if the government does it, private citizens should be able to do it too. Good or bad." Private citizens don't have the means, because they haven't been given the means. Because the government has been given so much power, the Bill of rights was added to make sure the government doesn't infringe on the rights of individuals. The government has to abide by the limitations contained in the Bill of Rights, but individual citizens are not bound by those limitations.

If I had the power to do so, I could fly through the air and make myself invisible, but it's not logical to think I'd ever be able to do those things.
It's not logical to believe in a lot of things. Santa. Easter Bunny. God. But people believe in them none the less. Perhaps it would be logical to think that someday you would fly through the air, given that you are a scientific genius on par with Tony Stark and have the money to research the tech. Otherwise, your chances are slim, unless you are on the unfortunate end of a Mafia carbomb under your seat.
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To change my actions to receive different results would basically require me to bend over and allow somebody with a huge penis to ram it up my ass. That being the case, I am satisfied with the results I have been getting.
This response is kind of predictable as you are kind of obvious in your overall personality...

You present yourself in a way to the world where you demand a lot (but offer little to nothing in return) and you get self-gratification by negative responses. You feel vindicated in the inevitable punishment of getting banned and you actively (either consciously or unconsciously) work towards that.

I hope some day you can realize you are victimizing yourself by your juvenile mentality. The false pretense of superiority you assume is entirely unwarranted.
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And who exactly makes up the government? Lapdogs for the wealthy.
You still have presented no intelligible reason for why you should be able to use somebody else's property for your own personal choices.
Just because you don't have the money for a forum doesn't mean you don't have other resources to voice your opinion. You can go out in public and voice your opinion on the streets, for example.
But you don't want to do that. Because what it really comes down to is you want a relatively captive audience and you want to make sure others are annoyed.


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Next "I" make the laws that apply to everybody. Just because I don't have the means to enforce them doesn't mean they they don't exist. Next, if you had the power to do so, you would be able to imprison somebody who breaks one of your laws. Is that logical enough?

Geezus. You suffer from "little man" syndrome worse than I had imagined.
I definitively would not do as you describe if I had the power. There are specific reasons for why our society imprisons people and your desire to do it specifically for personal revenge is astoundingly juvenile.
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