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Old May 28th, 2018, 07:16 AM   #1
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US Conservatives: a history of treason and cowardice

Revolutionary War - the Conservatives were called "Tories". They fought for Britain against their American neighbors.

Civil War - Conservatives supported the Confederacy and slavery during the war.

WW1 - Conservatives wanted to stay out of the war and some even wanted the USA to join the Central Powers side!

WW2 - Conservatives loudly called for isolationism as the Axis was rolling over one country after another. Conservatives criticized FDR's support of the Allies and some even stated the USA was fighting for the wrong side. Many Conservatives profited personally from German business interests during the war, including Republican Senator Prescott Bush (father of HW Bush, grandfather of GW Bush).

Korean War - Conservative MacArthur defied the authority of the POTUS and was fired for insubordination.

Vietnam War - Conservatives supported the war personally while tripping all over themselves with excuses to dodge the war for themselves. Ask Bonespurs if you don't believe me.

Desert Storm - HW Bush put thousands of American troops in harm's way to protect the interests of Kuwaiti oil billionaires who were his "friends".

Operation "Enduring Freedom" - Generalissimo Busho lied us into this war with fake WMD stories. Thousands of American troops died, tens of thousands were maimed for life, and over a million innocent civilians were killed.

Upcoming war started by draftdodger Trump to obscure his criminality - to be determined
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Old May 29th, 2018, 08:35 AM   #2
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Revolutionary War - the Conservatives were called "Tories". They fought for Britain against their American neighbors.

Civil War - Conservatives supported the Confederacy and slavery during the war.

WW1 - Conservatives wanted to stay out of the war and some even wanted the USA to join the Central Powers side!

WW2 - Conservatives loudly called for isolationism as the Axis was rolling over one country after another. Conservatives criticized FDR's support of the Allies and some even stated the USA was fighting for the wrong side. Many Conservatives profited personally from German business interests during the war, including Republican Senator Prescott Bush (father of HW Bush, grandfather of GW Bush).

Korean War - Conservative MacArthur defied the authority of the POTUS and was fired for insubordination.

Vietnam War - Conservatives supported the war personally while tripping all over themselves with excuses to dodge the war for themselves. Ask Bonespurs if you don't believe me.

Desert Storm - HW Bush put thousands of American troops in harm's way to protect the interests of Kuwaiti oil billionaires who were his "friends".

Operation "Enduring Freedom" - Generalissimo Busho lied us into this war with fake WMD stories. Thousands of American troops died, tens of thousands were maimed for life, and over a million innocent civilians were killed.

Upcoming war started by draftdodger Trump to obscure his criminality - to be determined
I think Trump got a medical deferment because he has flat feet. Look at Trump's feet when standing at the podium and it is obvious to the least casual observer that flat feet are his malady. Dr. Bob

edit: Make Trump walk barefoot in a puddle of water and then make him walk barefoot on dry concrete and watch his footprints, no arch is flat feet.

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Old May 29th, 2018, 11:58 AM   #3
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Revolutionary War - the Conservatives were called "Tories". They fought for Britain against their American neighbors.

Civil War - Conservatives supported the Confederacy and slavery during the war.

WW1 - Conservatives wanted to stay out of the war and some even wanted the USA to join the Central Powers side!

WW2 - Conservatives loudly called for isolationism as the Axis was rolling over one country after another. Conservatives criticized FDR's support of the Allies and some even stated the USA was fighting for the wrong side. Many Conservatives profited personally from German business interests during the war, including Republican Senator Prescott Bush (father of HW Bush, grandfather of GW Bush).

Korean War - Conservative MacArthur defied the authority of the POTUS and was fired for insubordination.

Vietnam War - Conservatives supported the war personally while tripping all over themselves with excuses to dodge the war for themselves. Ask Bonespurs if you don't believe me.

Desert Storm - HW Bush put thousands of American troops in harm's way to protect the interests of Kuwaiti oil billionaires who were his "friends".

Operation "Enduring Freedom" - Generalissimo Busho lied us into this war with fake WMD stories. Thousands of American troops died, tens of thousands were maimed for life, and over a million innocent civilians were killed.

Upcoming war started by draftdodger Trump to obscure his criminality - to be determined
Excellent points. The right wing (not the “c-word”) has created one foreign policy disaster after another from the time of our nation’s founding. Coincidentally, their campaign donors always just happen to come out of these wars smelling like roses.
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Old May 29th, 2018, 03:31 PM   #4
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Revolutionary War - the Conservatives were called "Tories". They fought for Britain against their American neighbors.
Ah, I think I get what you mean when you make reference to some groups you're referring to as "conservatives" - you mean something specific to a time period rather than some political group having a platform of fixed principles, or something of that nature.

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Civil War - Conservatives supported the Confederacy and slavery during the war.
I think in this case you're only half right. Both sides were "conservative" relative to their own sides. The Democrats were the "conservatives" supporting the Confederacy and slavery, and the Republicans were the "conservatives" supporting the Union and abolition.

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WW1 - Conservatives wanted to stay out of the war and some even wanted the USA to join the Central Powers side!
If some of them wanted to join a side of a war, that wouldn't be consistent with wanting to stay out of the war. So what is it? Did conservatives want to join the war, or stay out of it?

It isn't cowardice to stay out of some foreign, overseas war; when it comes to war, cowardice only applies to failure to meet an obligation or expectation to protect and defend one's own country. what's treasonous about wanting to stay out of a war? If anything, I would consider it far more "treasonous" (or seditious, or whatever the most appropriate word is that applies, for lack of a good enough term) not to avoid foreign entanglements.
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I think Trump got a medical deferment because he has flat feet. Look at Trump's feet when standing at the podium and it is obvious to the least casual observer that flat feet are his malady. Dr. Bob

edit: Make Trump walk barefoot in a puddle of water and then make him walk barefoot on dry concrete and watch his footprints, no arch is flat feet.
Trump got 1 draft deferment for "bone spurs" (which miraculously "disappeared") and 4 college deferments.

For the record I have flat feet and served in Desert Storm. Guys COULD still volunteer and serve despite flat feet (and probably for "bone spurs").
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Trump got 1 draft deferment for "bone spurs" (which miraculously "disappeared") and 4 college deferments.

For the record I have flat feet and served in Desert Storm. Guys COULD still volunteer and serve despite flat feet (and probably for "bone spurs").
I did 2 tours in Vietnam....One for me and one for Trump....So what is your problem???...Really???
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I did 2 tours in Vietnam....One for me and one for Trump....So what is your problem???...Really???
The punk should have served his own time.
Did you even know who Trump was at the time? Trump was fucking coeds for you while you were in Vietnam. That was "his Vietnam" according to him, avoiding the old drippy dick.

BTW, much as i disagree with you politics i thank you for your service.
I was stepping onto the yellow footprints at MCRD San Diego about this time of the evening 50 years ago today.
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I did 2 tours in Vietnam....One for me and one for Trump....So what is your problem???...Really???
I dislike cowards, especially draft dodging chickenhawks like Trump, Nugent, Cheney, etc.
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I did 2 tours in Vietnam....One for me and one for Trump....So what is your problem???...Really???
No offense, but I find it highly dubious a guy who served two tours of duty in a war would rush to defend a notorious chickenhawk. A chickenhawk who pretended to have a medical ailment which magically disappeared without treatment (and he seemingly can't remember which foot it was). A chickenhawk who said the military Prep school he went to was "Just as tough as Vietnam". A chickenhawk who said he was a "brave, brave soldier" because he avoided contracting STDs in the 70's.
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