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Old March 31st, 2012, 09:38 AM   #1
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I think Jewish people have a lot of influence in the media and they tend to overlook Jewish misdeeds. In the interest of fairness I have compiled a list of crimes committed by Jewish people. (Incidentally, I donít think all Jews should be blamed for these crimes.)



Hereís some fun facts about Jews:

1) The abortion movement has included many Jewish racists:



"Above all, society must grasp the grim relationship between unwanted children and the violent rebellion of minority groups."- Lawrence Lader, co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. Breeding Ourselves to Death [New York: Ballantine Books, 1971], page 23.

Lawrence Lader was not a marginal figure, he was one of the founders of NARAL!



2) Harry Dexter White was one of Americaís worst traitors.

quote: 1. White was the real author of the Morgenthau plan to "turn Germany into a potato field," which when leaked, united non-Nazis with Nazis, stiffened resistance, and prolonged the war.

2. White used his position in the Treasury Department to develop a hostile U.S. policy toward Japan. The reason was to distract Japan from their plans to attack the Soviet Union and draw the U.S. into the war as an ally with the Soviet Union.

3. White was the author of an extreme ultimatum that Japan could not comply with in the days just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

4. White delayed financial support mandated by law to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist Chinese government causing the triumph of Mao Tse-Tung's Communist Chinese government.

5. White was instrumental in handing over the Allied Military mark printing plates to the Soviets. This caused a $250,000,000 deficit in the occupational government budget paid out by the U.S. Treasury. This in effect amounted to the US taxpayer paying the salaries of Soviet occupation troops at a time when US/Soviet relations were deteriorating precisely because of the presence and behavior of Soviet occupation forces in Eastern Europe.

LINK



3) Utilitarian Peter Singer is one of the world's most influential philosophers,

quote: Singer argues that it should be legal for parents to decide to have their disabled infants killed up to 28 days after birth.

LINK



4) Coverups Have Made Sex Abuse More Common In Haredi Community, Rabbi Says

5) Speaking of which did you know gay Jewish poet Allen Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA?

6) Israeli 'Blood Diamond' Magnate Lending Sparkle to Oscars

7) Stalin's Jews

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

8 ) Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael on Jews in the Slave Trade



9) AVirtual Spy : DOSSIER: The Secret History of Armand Hammer.

10) Hollywood has glorified Jewish gay activist Harvey Milk as a saint. They somehow forgot to mention that Milk had sex with a child or that he was closely allied to Jim Jones.



Here is an excerpt from Randy Shilts' The Mayor of Castro Street pertaining to Milkís boyfriend, Jack Galen McKinley:

"...sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure...At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him." (pages 30-31)

Apparently this kind of behavior was not unusual for Milk. More excerpts:

"It would be to boyish-looking men in their late teens and early 20's that Milk would be attracted for the rest of his life." (page 24)

"Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems." (page 180)
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What, are we suddenly Stormfront here? Please. This thread is offensive. Good thing it's in the crazy section here, it can pass itself off as simply somehting stupid instead of evil.
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This thread is offensive.
Can you refute any facts I've posted? If you can't on what basis do you object? Maybe you object to the truth?
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Can you refute any facts I've posted? If you can't on what basis do you object? Maybe you object to the truth?


The truth being what? You failed to define what that truth is that you speak of.
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I think Jewish people have a lot of influence in the media and they tend to overlook Jewish misdeeds. In the interest of fairness I have compiled a list of crimes committed by Jewish people. (Incidentally, I donít think all Jews should be blamed for these crimes.)



Hereís some fun facts about Jews:

1) The abortion movement has included many Jewish racists:



"Above all, society must grasp the grim relationship between unwanted children and the violent rebellion of minority groups."- Lawrence Lader, co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. Breeding Ourselves to Death [New York: Ballantine Books, 1971], page 23.

Lawrence Lader was not a marginal figure, he was one of the founders of NARAL!



2) Harry Dexter White was one of Americaís worst traitors.

quote: 1. White was the real author of the Morgenthau plan to "turn Germany into a potato field," which when leaked, united non-Nazis with Nazis, stiffened resistance, and prolonged the war.

2. White used his position in the Treasury Department to develop a hostile U.S. policy toward Japan. The reason was to distract Japan from their plans to attack the Soviet Union and draw the U.S. into the war as an ally with the Soviet Union.

3. White was the author of an extreme ultimatum that Japan could not comply with in the days just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

4. White delayed financial support mandated by law to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist Chinese government causing the triumph of Mao Tse-Tung's Communist Chinese government.

5. White was instrumental in handing over the Allied Military mark printing plates to the Soviets. This caused a $250,000,000 deficit in the occupational government budget paid out by the U.S. Treasury. This in effect amounted to the US taxpayer paying the salaries of Soviet occupation troops at a time when US/Soviet relations were deteriorating precisely because of the presence and behavior of Soviet occupation forces in Eastern Europe.

LINK



3) Utilitarian Peter Singer is one of the world's most influential philosophers,

quote: Singer argues that it should be legal for parents to decide to have their disabled infants killed up to 28 days after birth.

LINK



4) Coverups Have Made Sex Abuse More Common In Haredi Community, Rabbi Says

5) Speaking of which did you know gay Jewish poet Allen Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA?

6) Israeli 'Blood Diamond' Magnate Lending Sparkle to Oscars

7) Stalin's Jews

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

8 ) Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael on Jews in the Slave Trade



9) AVirtual Spy : DOSSIER: The Secret History of Armand Hammer.

10) Hollywood has glorified Jewish gay activist Harvey Milk as a saint. They somehow forgot to mention that Milk had sex with a child or that he was closely allied to Jim Jones.



Here is an excerpt from Randy Shilts' The Mayor of Castro Street pertaining to Milkís boyfriend, Jack Galen McKinley:

"...sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure...At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him." (pages 30-31)

Apparently this kind of behavior was not unusual for Milk. More excerpts:

"It would be to boyish-looking men in their late teens and early 20's that Milk would be attracted for the rest of his life." (page 24)

"Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems." (page 180)


Are you going to post a follow-up "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Christians" or "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Muslims"?



Perhaps maybe something about buddhists, hindus, or mormons?



Just wondering if your creating a series of some sort or if your suggesting the all Jews are equivalent to the Jews you mention in your post.
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Are you going to post a follow-up "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Christians" or "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Muslims"?



Perhaps maybe something about buddhists, hindus, or mormons?



Just wondering if your creating a series of some sort or if your suggesting the all Jews are equivalent to the Jews you mention in your post.
I gave an explanation. Did you miss this: "I think Jewish people have a lot of influence in the media and they tend to overlook Jewish misdeeds. In the interest of fairness I have compiled a list of crimes committed by Jewish people. (Incidentally, I donít think all Jews should be blamed for these crimes.)"
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Are you going to post a follow-up "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Christians" or "Ten Facts You Didn't Know About Muslims"?



Perhaps maybe something about buddhists, hindus, or mormons?



Just wondering if your creating a series of some sort or if your suggesting the all Jews are equivalent to the Jews you mention in your post.
I gave an explanation. Did you miss this: "I think Jewish people have a lot of influence in the media and they tend to overlook Jewish misdeeds. In the interest of fairness I have compiled a list of crimes committed by Jewish people. (Incidentally, I donít think all Jews should be blamed for these crimes.)"


I read that and it applies equality, and even more so in regards to media influence, to Christians. That's why I was asking if your going to post a follow up. Do you believe Christian influence in the media is less than Jewish influence? Do you believe that Christians tend to overlook the misdeeds of other Christians?
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Do you believe Christian influence in the media is less than Jewish influence?
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Do you believe that Christians tend to overlook the misdeeds of other Christians?
I think Jewish people have particularly strong feelings of in-group solidarity.
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You ignored my question. What truth?
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Do you believe Christian influence in the media is less than Jewish influence?
Yes.




Could you elaborate.



In my mind I'm thinking of all the Christian worship broadcasting and the fact that there are actual Christian channels such as GMC (Gospel Music Channel) and CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network). I'm also thinking of influential people in America such as Oprah, Tim Tebow, and most (if not all) of American Presidents.



There is also a significant monopoly on television programming during Christian holidays, despite the fact that Jewish holidays often coincide with Christian holidays. I can watch the Hallmark Channel or ABC Family from December 1st to New Years Day view maybe 2 or 3 Jewish movies throughout that time.
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Do you believe that Christians tend to overlook the misdeeds of other Christians?
I think Jewish people have particularly strong feelings of in-group solidarity.


You didn't answer the question on Christians and overlooked misdeeds. Is that something you don't know or don't care about?



I agree that Jewish people have an in-group solidarity but don't see how that would result in misdeeds being overlooked.



Religious persecution has happened to the members of every religion throughout the history of this world. However, the massive degree of extermination that was attempted during WWII is also a factor in how inclusive the Jewish community has become. I think there is still an underlying fear, but I also believe that fear keeps the Jewish community relatively quiet compared to their Christian neighbors.



There is also a matter of the Jewish population being limited in their ability to grow in numbers. Unlike Christianity, some Jewish denominations believe that being Hebrew is a requirement for being Jewish. Modern Jewish movements have allowed for more conversions to Judaism, but the issue of ancestry is still in debate and calls into question whether the conversions are complete or not.
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I think Jewish people have a lot of influence in the media and they tend to overlook Jewish misdeeds. In the interest of fairness I have compiled a list of crimes committed by Jewish people. (Incidentally, I donít think all Jews should be blamed for these crimes.)


If you sincerely don't think all Jews should be blamed for those supposed crimes that you listed, then why did you title this message thread, "Ten Facts You DidníT Know About Jews?"
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also many of these "facts about jews" relate to single individuals. if you are going to take the reprehensible behaviour of a single individual and use that to judge everyone who shares their religion you are a completely sick moron.
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In my mind I'm thinking of all the Christian worship broadcasting and the fact that there are actual Christian channels such as GMC (Gospel Music Channel) and CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network). I'm also thinking of influential people in America such as Oprah, Tim Tebow,
Tim Tebow?!



Jews In The American Media



I'd rather see a greater variety of ethnic groups influencing the media, wouldn't you?



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You don't?!
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In my mind I'm thinking of all the Christian worship broadcasting and the fact that there are actual Christian channels such as GMC (Gospel Music Channel) and CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network). I'm also thinking of influential people in America such as Oprah, Tim Tebow,
Tim Tebow?!



Jews In The American Media



I'd rather see a greater variety of ethnic groups influencing the media, wouldn't you?



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I agree that Jewish people have an in-group solidarity but don't see how that would result in misdeeds being overlooked.
You don't?!
Yes, Tim Tebow. It's been awhile since every media outlet was filled with screenshots, videos, and interviews that repeatedly stated the famous football player was a devout Christian. What is the reason for continually pointing that out? Though I will rescind the Oprah example, she's really in a category all her own.



Personally, I would love to see a more ethnically diverse media influence, but unlike you, I think those groups should influence the media through visual representation. No one notices whose behind the camera, but everyone notices whose behind the microphone or acting in a show. I think ethnic diversity in those areas are most important to equalizing the media.



The list you provide of Jews in the American media doesn't represent control or influence over the media. If anything, your list points out that the media is more comfortable with Jews being behind the camera, than in front of it. As for the writers and columnists on the list, wouldn't that denote talent rather than something sinister? You also ignore that fact that while Jews are behind the scenes, there are still no Jewish channels. Multiple Rabbi's don't have hours of broadcasting across several networks and the principles of judaism are not being advertised like shoe commericals. The tv waves remain Christian friendly as always. Perhaps my confusion is due to my lack of understanding what the Jews are supposed to be doing through the influence you've perceived. I mean,the Jewish population certainly isn't increasing from having jobs in the media.



In regards to the in-group solidarity and misdeeds, I think it's presumptuous of you to assume that in-group solidarity means lack of integrity. Misdeeds are committed by the individual, and normally the individual is ostracized by their group due to principles of personal integrity and societal responsibility. We are not talking about a group of popular girls in high school or a group of jocks where everyone attempts to be as similar to each other as possible. Religion does not make everyone exactly the same, especially since Judaism has several denominations (sub-groups) within America that practice values ranging from Orthodox to Reform. Treating Jews as a single, cohesive unit lessens our ability to appreciate each individual as a human being first and foremost. Just as it would be wrong to assume any and all Christians are terrible people due to the misdeeds of members belonging to that faith.



The men you mentioned in your first post are not The Jews, they are men who just happen to belong to the Jewish faith.
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Yes, Tim Tebow. It's been awhile since every media outlet was filled with screenshots, videos, and interviews that repeatedly stated the famous football player was a devout Christian. What is the reason for continually pointing that out?


Because Tebow's faith plays a big part in his life even though he's rich and successful. That resonates with a lot of people in America, regardless of whether or no they are Christians.



Why do you find that so objectionable yet you complain there is not enough programming portraying positive homosexual characters to teen audiences?!?
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The list you provide of Jews in the American media doesn't represent control or influence over the media. If anything, your list points out that the media is more comfortable with Jews being behind the camera, than in front of it.





As for the writers and columnists on the list, wouldn't that denote talent rather than something sinister? You also ignore that fact that while Jews are behind the scenes, there are still no Jewish channels. Multiple Rabbi's don't have hours of broadcasting across several networks and the principles of judaism are not being advertised like shoe commericals. The tv waves remain Christian friendly as always. Perhaps my confusion is due to my lack of understanding what the Jews are supposed to be doing through the influence you've perceived. I mean,the Jewish population certainly isn't increasing from having jobs in the media.









There is nothing stopping somebody from starting Jewish channel, nor a Muslim or Hindu channel. It probably comes down to simple economics and whether there would be a large enough market to make such channels viable.



I don't see any evidence to support your biased assertion that "the media is more comfortable with Jews being behind the camera, than in front of it."



There are countless Jewish actors on TV and many of them are hugely popular, including Fran Drescher, Jon Stewart and Jerry Seinfeld, and hundreds of Jewish characters in popular shows



In summary I see no basis whatsoever for your comments.



Most of all I don't understand your assumption that TV has to balance every religious, cultural, ethnic and sexuality minority equally.



TV only exists because of the commercials!
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