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Old December 29th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #1
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The Holocaust: Who Is Lying

To get to the bottom of that question, you need to look at the reasons why somebody would lie by saying that the holocaust was largely a fraud and the reasons why somebody would lie by saying that the holocaust happened as it is generally believed to have happened. First, I will list all the reasons I can think of why somebody might lie by saying that the holocaust was largely a fraud.

1. To make money. There are many people who write books or give lectures to make money by supporting all sorts of conspiracy theories. No doubt holocaust denial would fit right in.
2. To cover their guilt for having killed so many "innocent" people. Which is no reason at all to me. There are some people out there who say that even if 6 million Jews did die, it wasn't nearly enough.
3. To help sell the idea of White patriotism not being so bad by saying that White patriots didn't kill as many Jews as is generally believed.
4. Those who don't like the Jews would likely be interested in slandering them by saying that they largely invented the whole holocaust thing.

Now let's look at some of the reasons why somebody might lie by saying that the holocaust happened as it is generally believed to have happened, when it didn't.

1. In about 1933, there was a newspaper headline that said, "Judea declares war on Germany." But as the old saying goes, "In war, truth is the first casualty."
2. Jews controlled the movie industry. They may have had a large influence in radio broadcasting. This gave them a huge soapbox from which to spread their lies.
3. Jews probably sought revenge against Germany for them having dared to deport the "chosen of god."
4. Reparations were made to the Jews for the whole holocaust thing. As far as I know, they still are. If the holocaust was ever proven to largely be a fraud, those payments would dry up. They might even have to pay back many of the payments that were made.
5. The U.S. might lessen its financial support of Israel. A country that it has already given nuclear weapons to.
6. For many Christians, a good way to prove the power of their imaginary god is to support the Jewish people.
7. By playing the "pity" card, Jews are able to get away with much more.
8. If the holocaust was ever disproved, Jews might again be persecuted.
9. National Socialism was economically successful. Capitalism wasn't and isn't. To support "The American Way," it would be very helpful to discredit national socialism in any way possible.
10. To give the American victors something to crow about.
12. Without a doubt, Stalin was the real monster. The idea of the holocaust could be supported to make the Americans not look so bad for having supported him.
13. If the holocaust was ever proved to largely be a hoax, the American people would feel extremely suckered. They would loose even more faith in the U.S. government.
14. German National Socialism wasn't into the whole multiethnic garbage constantly being shoved down the throats of the American people. To help support our government's diseased, multiethnic social ideas, it is very helpful to discredit the White patriot national socialist party. Etc.

So when it comes to lying about the holocaust in one way or another, who do you think has the most or best reasons to do so.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 05:47 PM   #2
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So when it comes to lying about the holocaust in one way or another, who do you think has the most or best reasons to do so.
It's just like global warming. The deniers are lying.
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freemind, don't you already have another thread on this topic?
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Old December 29th, 2015, 07:30 PM   #4
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freemind, don't you already have another thread on this topic?
This Holocaust thread is on "Who?" It's different.
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It should be about who benefits from the hollow-cost. The "six million" story is the best thing that ever happened to the Khazars. They can do whatever they want while hiding behind their phony shield of "victim status".
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It's just like global warming. The deniers are lying.
Uh-oh! And with that comment all i can hear now is: "The perpetrators of the lie have far more to gain and keep than the deniers have left too lose."
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Uh-oh! And with that comment all i can hear now is: "The perpetrators of the lie have far more to gain and keep than the deniers have left too lose."
Panther......!!!

The deniers are lying.
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I'll tell you the liars best kept secret: If you want to get lies believed, you must get the lie out FIRST. People will believe the version they hear first and not even evaluate the truth that comes later because they lack the intellectual flexibility to admit to themselves that they had been deceived.
They never demand proof of the first story, only the second.
Once you grasp this concept, it's easy to understand how much power the mass media has.
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I'll tell you the liars best kept secret: If you want to get lies believed, you must get the lie out FIRST. People will believe the version they hear first and not even evaluate the truth that comes later because they lack the intellectual flexibility to admit to themselves that they had been deceived.
They never demand proof of the first story, only the second.
Once you grasp this concept, it's easy to understand how much power the mass media has.
Yeah, ya know, dammit....

If only the first news out had been, "German resorts mistakenly identified as extermination camps," then all the starving people, the mass graves, the crematoria, and the eyewitness accounts of survivors could have been easily ignored.

You and freemind have been given ample opportunity to disprove the Holocaust. You've failed. Repeatedly.
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I'll tell you the liars best kept secret: If you want to get lies believed, you must get the lie out FIRST. People will believe the version they hear first and not even evaluate the truth that comes later because they lack the intellectual flexibility to admit to themselves that they had been deceived.
They never demand proof of the first story, only the second.
Once you grasp this concept, it's easy to understand how much power the mass media has.
Now you know how Rush Limbaugh got his start. You just perfectly described the AM talkradio business model.

Good job Pilgrim.
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