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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:13 AM   #31
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I have yet to have one liberal claiming to be Christian explain how being pro homosexual pro abortion squares with being a Christian!
Well, I have yet to read one Patriot66, who claims to be Christian, explain how being pro-judgmental of others squares with being a Christian.

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1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:18 AM   #32
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It says that the OT, or at least some of it is not in force today. So which parts are and which parts aren't and who decides?

Make up your own Christianity by deciding which parts of the bible are in force and which parts aren't for yourself.

A DIY religion.
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:28 AM   #33
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You would be horribly wrong on both issues, God values the life of his creation, Abortion is Murder.

Homosexuality is covered in Leviticus, and Romans.

The Bible definitely teaches that the unborn are persons because the unborn possess personal attributes, are described by personal pronouns, Jesus is called a child at conception, the unborn are called children, are protected by the same punishment as for adults, are called by God before birth, and are known personally by God just like any other person. Since abortion is murdering a person, abortion is morally wrong (Gen. 9:6; Rom. 1:28-29).

Are you JEWISH ???? Do YOU follow ALLLLLL the Old Testament laws ?? Or JUST THE ONES THAT SUIT YOUR NARROW MINDED VIEWS ??? Do you ACTUALLY FOLLOW any of the OT laws, or do you ONLY SEEK TO IMPOSE THEM ON OTHER PEOPLE. Ever had fried shrimp or bbq pork ribs !!!! Ever mowed the lawn, washed the car or even cooked a meal on Sunday ??

I know I've posted this before, but it truly is one of the best 4 minutes ever put on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:29 AM   #34
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It says that the OT, or at least some of it is not in force today. So which parts are and which parts aren't and who decides?

Make up your own Christianity by deciding which parts of the bible are in force and which parts aren't for yourself.

A DIY religion.
I have no problem with a DIY religion, but if someone calls themselves "a Christian" it seems weird to ignore the more radical teachings of the one called Jesus Christ, such as:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:42 AM   #35
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Are you JEWISH ???? Do YOU follow ALLLLLL the Old Testament laws ?? Or JUST THE ONES THAT SUIT YOUR NARROW MINDED VIEWS ??? Do you ACTUALLY FOLLOW any of the OT laws, or do you ONLY SEEK TO IMPOSE THEM ON OTHER PEOPLE. Ever had fried shrimp or bbq pork ribs !!!! Ever mowed the lawn, washed the car or even cooked a meal on Sunday ??

I know I've posted this before, but it truly is one of the best 4 minutes ever put on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD52OlkKfNs
Thanks Bubba. That moistened my eyes a bit.

The personality some who call themselves Christian present to the world could not be farther from the person Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. Often, these folks point out that being a Christian doesn't make one perfect. I understand that, but it should at least make a difference.

Many who self-describe as Christian are some of the most unloving, judgmental and unforgiving people I've met, always reminding people of how good they are and how you are headed to eternal hell, which you deserve.
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I have no problem with a DIY religion, but if someone calls themselves "a Christian" it seems weird to ignore the more radical teachings of the one called Jesus Christ, such as:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

And here is one of my favorite quotes as it directly addresses those that would speak for God and claim to know the mind of Jesus. It's a direct warning about being overly pious and hints that other faiths will be allowed in heaven.

I say to you that many will come from the east and the west to share the banquet with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! As you have believed, so will it be done for you.”
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I have no problem with a DIY religion, but if someone calls themselves "a Christian" it seems weird to ignore the more radical teachings of the one called Jesus Christ, such as:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Jesus is speaking of Leviticus.
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And here is one of my favorite quotes as it directly addresses those that would speak for God and claim to know the mind of Jesus. It's a direct warning about being overly pious and hints that other faiths will be allowed in heaven.

I say to you that many will come from the east and the west to share the banquet with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! As you have believed, so will it be done for you.”
Yes, and what immediately preceded your quote:

Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, pleading with Him, saying, ‘Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented.’ And Jesus said to him, ‘I will come and heal him.” The centurion answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!
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Jesus is speaking of Leviticus.
Jesus is speaking to those with ears to hear.
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Jesus is speaking to those with ears to hear.
To hear about Leviticus and how it had been misused.
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