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Old January 31st, 2017, 09:56 AM   #21
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The thread was posted with nothing more than insult at its core.

What would make you think that any response to it would go upward from there?


I think Sensible is NEW and trying to be sensible. LOL

That will just never fly here, will it, Tris?
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Old January 31st, 2017, 10:19 AM   #22
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The thread was posted with nothing more than insult at its core.

What would make you think that any response to it would go upward from there?
Isn't everyone entitled to their opinion, or does it have to be group think? Insults do not get us any further in the debate or discussion.
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I think Sensible is NEW and trying to be sensible. LOL

That will just never fly here, will it, Tris?
It seems everyone thinks they are right, defend your position without insult it will help us all to understand each other. I can disagree with you without name calling and insults, can't we all be adult?
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Old January 31st, 2017, 10:59 AM   #24
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It seems everyone thinks they are right, defend your position without insult it will help us all to understand each other. I can disagree with you without name calling and insults, can't we all be adult?
That would be ideal.

Unfortunately, despite staff's best efforts being applied multiple times, a hardcore here believes insults are part of every response. Gradually, they're being weeded out. Everyone is allowed 9 points before the 10th point which means permanent banning.

Because of that great number of "chances" allowed, DTT attracts whackos.

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Old January 31st, 2017, 12:03 PM   #25
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It seems everyone thinks they are right, defend your position without insult it will help us all to understand each other. I can disagree with you without name calling and insults, can't we all be adult?
I agree. And being an adult means being honest, intelligent, and credible.

I'll go first.

Isn't it time to acknowledge Obama was a good President that inherited a crashed economy and two wars, and in spite of treasonous and seditious obstruction from a Republican Congress, brought the country back from the brink of ruinous conservative policies?

Which brings me to my second question.

Don't the people in red states that voted for the Republican obstruction deserve the economic condition they find themselves in?

Which brings me to my last question.

Given the cooperation, aiding, and abetting Trump has given the Russians, along with other members of his administration, and Trumps obvious conflicts of interests which puts him in violation of his oath of office, shouldn't he and the members of his team be acknowledged as traitors, and be put in federal prison for life?
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Old January 31st, 2017, 03:00 PM   #26
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I agree. And being an adult means being honest, intelligent, and credible.

I'll go first.

Isn't it time to acknowledge Obama was a good President that inherited a crashed economy and two wars, and in spite of treasonous and seditious obstruction from a Republican Congress, brought the country back from the brink of ruinous conservative policies?

Which brings me to my second question.

Don't the people in red states that voted for the Republican obstruction deserve the economic condition they find themselves in?

Which brings me to my last question.

Given the cooperation, aiding, and abetting Trump has given the Russians, along with other members of his administration, and Trumps obvious conflicts of interests which puts him in violation of his oath of office, shouldn't he and the members of his team be acknowledged as traitors, and be put in federal prison for life?
There are many schools of thought about the crashed economy, who caused it, and whether or not Obama actually did a very good job, of "turning it around". The middle class certainly did not fare well under then President Obama. There are many more people on food stamps and the vets were certainly not treated well under his administration.

I would say that both parties are very good at obstruction!

There is no proof of Trump doing anything of the sort with the Russians, as much as you would like to think there is. That is fine, it ranks right up there with Bush orchestrated 911, that is not meant as an insult, just my opinion which I am sure you will disagree with!
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There are many schools of thought about the crashed economy, who caused it, and whether or not Obama actually did a very good job, of "turning it around". The middle class certainly did not fare well under then President Obama. There are many more people on food stamps and the vets were certainly not treated well under his administration.

I would say that both parties are very good at obstruction!

There is no proof of Trump doing anything of the sort with the Russians, as much as you would like to think there is. That is fine, it ranks right up there with Bush orchestrated 911, that is not meant as an insult, just my opinion which I am sure you will disagree with!
None taken, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
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Old January 31st, 2017, 03:44 PM   #28
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There are many schools of thought about the crashed economy, who caused it, and whether or not Obama actually did a very good job, of "turning it around". The middle class certainly did not fare well under then President Obama. There are many more people on food stamps and the vets were certainly not treated well under his administration.

I would say that both parties are very good at obstruction!

There is no proof of Trump doing anything of the sort with the Russians, as much as you would like to think there is. That is fine, it ranks right up there with Bush orchestrated 911, that is not meant as an insult, just my opinion which I am sure you will disagree with!
However, what's happened to the investigation into the allegations? Haven't hear a word about it. Have you? And, comparing 911 conspiracy theories with the documented Russian interference in our electoral process isn't a valid comparison.

Unless you buy into Trump's assertion that we can't trust any of our intelligence agencies. Then, yeah, it's all conspiracy theory.

But it's not.
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Old January 31st, 2017, 04:35 PM   #29
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However, what's happened to the investigation into the allegations? Haven't hear a word about it. Have you? And, comparing 911 conspiracy theories with the documented Russian interference in our electoral process isn't a valid comparison.

Unless you buy into Trump's assertion that we can't trust any of our intelligence agencies. Then, yeah, it's all conspiracy theory.

But it's not.
The fact is I, nor you have heard anything, it seems on equal footing with 911 conspiracies now. It seems as though when President Trump does anything it's the new shoe to drop. Civility needs to be restored, I fear that our political climate may be past that now though. Tit for Tat seems to be the order of the day unfortunately.
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The fact is I, nor you have heard anything, it seems on equal footing with 911 conspiracies now. It seems as though when President Trump does anything it's the new shoe to drop. Civility needs to be restored, I fear that our political climate may be past that now though. Tit for Tat seems to be the order of the day unfortunately.
We haven't heard anything new. But we've heard plenty, unless like Trump you're willing to dismiss not only our intelligence agencies but respected foreign intelligence agencies too.

Maybe, like Trump, you believe that since "nobody knows exactly what's going on," we should all “get on with our lives” and not worry about what the Russians did. I beg to differ. Romney nailed it in 2012.

A restoration of civility, say, the way things were in 1960, would be nice. However, Trump supporters on DTT have done nothing but gloat since the election results were known. They're still gloating today. I've never seen such a bunch of poor winners ever. I'm 67.

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