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Old August 2nd, 2017, 11:38 PM   #21
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No wonder you like Trump. You're just like him.
Please quantify that statement.
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Old August 2nd, 2017, 11:40 PM   #22
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I am starting to confuse your posts w/ HWs
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 03:27 AM   #23
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No wonder you like Trump. You're just like him.
He does say one thing one day and another thing on the next. Very Trumpian.....LOL
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 07:21 AM   #24
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I really am NOT concerned with what, if any political shenanigans Trump and the Russians might have cooked up. What has concerned me from the beginning is Trump possible FINANCIAL connections to the Russian Oligarch and their investment in Trump's properties.

We have spent a century or more meddling in other country's internal politics, INCLUDING RUSSIA'S. We shouldn't be so "SHOCKED AND ANGERED" if Russia has tried meddled in ours. That's just geopolitics.

What worries me is that this is all just smoke and mirrors to keep investigators from taking a close look at tRumps financials. I'm less worried about the release of the DNC emails. Frankly if it ends Hillary and makes DNC clean up their act and bring in some new blood, I see that as a good thing.

What truly worries me is that Trump really does owe the Russians hundred of millions of dollars. He might not owe it to Putin or the Russian government, but even the rich don't do well in Russia if they aren't a friend of Putin. If Putin asked one of them to call the loan(s) it could bankrupt Trump (again). This makes Trump possibly THE MOST compromised president to ever occupy the office save Nixon.

What a choice, bankrupt your company or do what's right for the nation !!! Sadly I think I know which answer he would choose. And it wouldn't be to save the nation.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 08:26 AM   #25
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He does say one thing one day and another thing on the next. Very Trumpian.....LOL
Please point out my inconsistencies.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 08:53 AM   #26
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The only reason the story is "inconsistent" is that the only people with the facts as they are known ARE NOT GIVING THEM OUT THE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

So we simply have a huge guessing game going on.

Just because the people who did the investigations, are doing the investigations, have analyzed all the data, and know the facts aren't spreading their asscheeks on every moronic political-pundit's talk show doesn't mean there IS no story.

It means we have not been given the story.

I realize you're young. Do you have any idea how long it took for the facts of the "story" of Watergate to reach the American public? Do you know how long we waited for the facts of the Iran-Contra "story" to be given to us.

Just because you get instant information online for your college term papers doesn't mean that's the way information is distributed in real life by the U.S. government.
What we have is a huge Democratically driven distraction. Designed to pull the focus away from actual gross negligence, and obstruction of justice.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 06:51 PM   #27
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Please quantify that statement.
Quantify? I'll qualify it.

You take the untenable position that Russia meddled in our election, but somehow the Trump organization was totally unaware of their doing so.

You hold this position despite the numerous "confessed to" meetings by members of the Trump organization and Trump himself.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 06:59 PM   #28
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What we have is a huge Democratically driven distraction. Designed to pull the focus away from actual gross negligence, and obstruction of justice.
You seem to me to be an intelligent person, but by repeating the bullshit lies conjured by someone in the Trump organization or Trump himself you allow the King to make a fool of you.

You will wake up to this fact sooner or later. I have faith that you will, you and tens of millions who've been duped by a very slick salesman.

Meanwhile, let's see what Mueller uncovers. Otherwise, if he's fired now that he's using the grand jury process, we'll have our answer.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 08:33 PM   #29
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Quantify? I'll qualify it.

You take the untenable position that Russia meddled in our election, but somehow the Trump organization was totally unaware of their doing so.

You hold this position despite the numerous "confessed to" meetings by members of the Trump organization and Trump himself.
"unaware" is your term.

I have stated that there is no evidence of coalition.

I have stated from the beginning of this entire nothing burger that it would be silly if Russia did not put any effort to get trump elected. Clinton said out loud that she was ready to go to war w/ Russia. Why would they do otherwise? Nations attempt to influence other nations political systems all of the time.

I do not know if anything nefarious occurred. I don't know why this is suddenly a big deal?

How many tax dollars were spent when O-bomber was trying to influance Israel?

You guys keep changing your accusations. If I can keep up this week Russia did not hack the election but they sent some lawyer to meet up w/ jr to set something up, right? What was that that they were setting up? Was it the DNC email leaks? I cannot keep it straight. Or was it to secure some billion dollar casino deal in exchange for lifted sanctions? Maybe they were holding one of his kids hostage.

Anyways, apparently you have not been paying attention. This is the position I have held all along, why suddenly a year later it dawned on you to point it out I have no idea.
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We must shut down the internet if we want to stop foreign nations from meddling in our elections.
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