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Old July 11th, 2018, 12:34 PM   #41
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My opinion of Trump (and the current state of the GOP) is based on this.

Trump is, by far, the worst, most corrupt president in my lifetime. This is not something I state lightly. This has nothing to do with his political party. This is based solely on my observations of his behavior. I also believe that most, if not all, of the people in his administration and Republican members of Congress feel the same way. Unfortunately most of them have tied their political future to this sinking ship and seem bound and determined to go down with him. The GOP has sold its soul for four years (if he lasts that long) of power in the White House.

Trump will be president 8 years not 4 so the GOP has sold their soul for 8 years.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 12:37 PM   #42
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Notice how the wingnuts always jump at the chance to play the persecuted victim ? That trait drives how they view the world everyday. I would hate to live my life with that mindset. Yet, they love FOX, Breitbart and The Daily Caller. Go figure.....LOL
If it wasn't for the phony outrage, what would "unite the right"?
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Old July 11th, 2018, 12:37 PM   #43
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I might modify it to say isnít primarily in the media. Yes there are ďnewsĒ sites that have an obvious bias (left and right). But the bigger ones? NBC, ABC, CBS, The NY Times, The WSJ. I donít see a bias.
Did you type that with a straight face? Fake news is a bad catch phrase. Its not very correct. Its the news that they do not report,or they report in a way that minimizes its content. For example, Trump went after Merkel over the deal Germany made with Russia in regards to a natural gas pipeline. Yeah, the media reported. They reported it in a manner that it was side news in small print. Why? Does not fit the Trump is bought by Russia narrative. Therefore, can not really report it or give it credence by reporting it in the same manner as news that fits political narratives.

WSJ I do think is the least biased of your group. NYT not biased? That is just hilarious.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 12:39 PM   #44
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Of course you don't!!! That's the problem!! The only fix in evidence is to release the hidebound chains that keep your mind closed so securely. On another thread it was suggested that I stop looking for nuanced bias in everything I read or hear in the media. Perhaps you should start. Try it out, might just work.
Gibberish. The problem with the right's bogus claims of "media bias" is that they expect the media to report a GOOD STORY about Trump for every bad story, otherwise it's "biased". That's preposterous. I'm sure the media would love to report something GOOD Trump did....but he never does anything good.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 12:58 PM   #45
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Gibberish. The problem with the right's bogus claims of "media bias" is that they expect the media to report a GOOD STORY about Trump for every bad story, otherwise it's "biased". That's preposterous. I'm sure the media would love to report something GOOD Trump did....but he never does anything good.
It's just like a couple of threads that were started by Trumpanzees about how the media just keeps talking about how Dot Don lies all the time.

They can't accept that this is a plain fact and the media are just reporting facts, not showing a bias.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 02:49 PM   #46
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No, it is not the problem. I donít say it because it because everyone on the internet (especially on forums like this) claims to be the smartest, best looking, richest person in the world. But the fact is I am one of the more intelligent and non biased persons on here. I strive very hard to make sure my facts are correct before I post them. Do I make mistakes? Sure, Iím human. If I make a mistake I WANT to know it. If something in my knowledge base is wrong I WANT to correct it. I willingly admit when Iím wrong and I know the difference between opinion and fact.

These characteristics about myself allow me to recognize bias when I when I see it.

My opinion of Trump (and the current state of the GOP) is based on this.

Trump is, by far, the worst, most corrupt president in my lifetime. This is not something I state lightly. This has nothing to do with his political party. This is based solely on my observations of his behavior. I also believe that most, if not all, of the people in his administration and Republican members of Congress feel the same way. Unfortunately most of them have tied their political future to this sinking ship and seem bound and determined to go down with him. The GOP has sold its soul for four years (if he lasts that long) of power in the White House.
Trump most corrupt?

Can u help me with that? Define corruption and examples how Trump fits that.

I mean Trump is an ass, but unlike virtually all presidents before him, he is losing a lot of money while in office. So, if itís not the money whatís the corrupting element?
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Old July 11th, 2018, 03:45 PM   #47
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Here is a Lefty altering peoples worss on a quote. Lets see if there is any backlash for it from the Left here.
What, no temper tantrum? No crying?

Cummon man, this is an outrage!!!!!
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Old July 11th, 2018, 03:54 PM   #48
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Do you believe a Golden Age existed when all news reporting could be believed?
The US military has had a movie studio since like the 30s (i can dig up the documentary if need be) and was the largest in the world for many years (bigger than any in Hollywood) where they fimled propaganda movies. Most likely the majority of the war footage seen on MSM and IMO the moon landing.

No longer is the merger between the legacy media and the state a head of the technology available to the public. Information moves to quickly in the internets for the powers that be to be abke to spin it to their advantage (whatever that may be)

This is why we are seeing the state trying to take over the internet on a global scale. The EU is very, very close to this and w/ president pajama giving over much of the internet rights to the EU rather than being here in the states, under the protection of the constitution could become detrimental to the future of liberty as we know it.

1984 was not suposed to be a guide book.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 03:58 PM   #49
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No need to get pissy dude.

I spent years being a reporter and an editor. Our paper strove for objectivity. We knew when we really achieved it when reporting a politically contentious subject. Both sides accused us of bias.

In the real world my opinion does not carry the weight of the POTUS' opinion.

Trump started the meme "fake news" before his Kellyanne introduced the concept of alternative facts. He's got to own this. He presents himself as unbiased, which of course he isn't.

Nonetheless, he's convinced around a third of the nation that his word can be trusted, even when he contradicts himself within a 24-hour span, even when his "opinion" is objectively wrong.

Um, that was Hillary that started crying about "fake news" i believe. Lord trump just capitalized on it.
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Trump most corrupt?

Can u help me with that? Define corruption and examples how Trump fits that.

I mean Trump is an ass, but unlike virtually all presidents before him, he is losing a lot of money while in office. So, if it’s not the money what’s the corrupting element?
Corrupt is an adjective, it means rotten, it's a subjective judgement.
Convictions is something you can count.
President with the most people in their administration convicted of a crime: Ulysses S.Grant.
Most convictions since Grant: Richard Nixon.
Most convictions since Nixon: Ronald Reagan
Most convictions since Reagan: W Bush

Running up a total fast: Trump
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