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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:10 PM   #51
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No, it is not the problem. I donít say it because it because everyone on the internet (especially on forums like this) claims to be the smartest, best looking, richest person in the world. But the fact is I am one of the more intelligent and non biased persons on here. I strive very hard to make sure my facts are correct before I post them. Do I make mistakes? Sure, Iím human. If I make a mistake I WANT to know it. If something in my knowledge base is wrong I WANT to correct it. I willingly admit when Iím wrong and I know the difference between opinion and fact.

These characteristics about myself allow me to recognize bias when I when I see it.

My opinion of Trump (and the current state of the GOP) is based on this.

Trump is, by far, the worst, most corrupt president in my lifetime. This is not something I state lightly. This has nothing to do with his political party. This is based solely on my observations of his behavior. I also believe that most, if not all, of the people in his administration and Republican members of Congress feel the same way. Unfortunately most of them have tied their political future to this sinking ship and seem bound and determined to go down with him. The GOP has sold its soul for four years (if he lasts that long) of power in the White House.


You honestly do not see a biased in the legacy media? (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, WaPo exc)?
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:17 PM   #52
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Trump most corrupt?

Can u help me with that? Define corruption and examples how Trump fits that.

I mean Trump is an ass, but unlike virtually all presidents before him, he is losing a lot of money while in office. So, if itís not the money whatís the corrupting element?
Just one example. Holding meetings with others both foreign and domestic at his golf course thus charging the taxpayer tons of money for visitors and their entourage to stay at his place and all the security and all that straight into his pocket.

It would be a fraction of the cost if those events were held at the WH or Camp David.

A few others:

Putting his "blind trust" in the hands of his sons who are in daily plus contact with him.

Operating several businesses and selling his branded crap while in the WH.

And that's without any digging.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:24 PM   #53
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Just one example. Holding meetings with others both foreign and domestic at his golf course thus charging the taxpayer tons of money for visitors and their entourage to stay at his place and all the security and all that straight into his pocket.

It would be a fraction of the cost if those events were held at the WH or Camp David.

A few others:

Putting his "blind trust" in the hands of his sons who are in daily plus contact with him.

Operating several businesses and selling his branded crap while in the WH.

And that's without any digging.
Now i defended president pajama on this.

The golf course is an excellent place for business meetings and is very, very common and successful. If you want me to expand on this yet again i will.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:31 PM   #54
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Now i defended president pajama on this.

The golf course is an excellent place for business meetings and is very, very common and successful. If you want me to expand on this yet again i will.
No one said otherwise. The point is that Trump chooses to schedule these meetings at places where he personally profits when there are other places such as Camp David that are quite adequate for such meetings, have the necessary security, communications, etc. and have been successfully used for fucking decades.

No fucking idea in the world who "president pajama" is. Wish you kids would stop making up nonsensical crap like that.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:46 PM   #55
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Trump most corrupt?

Can u help me with that? Define corruption and examples how Trump fits that.

I mean Trump is an ass, but unlike virtually all presidents before him, he is losing a lot of money while in office. So, if itís not the money whatís the corrupting element?
How did you determine that he is losing money? He refuses to release his tax returns so we have no idea how much he was making before he was elected.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 06:04 PM   #56
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Don the Con is about to meet his puppet master Putin without anyone there to record the meeting. Any right winger that whines about media bias during this con man’s time in office needs their head examined.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 06:48 PM   #57
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How did you determine that he is losing money? He refuses to release his tax returns so we have no idea how much he was making before he was elected.
His resorts however had taken in MORE THAN $16 MILLION GOVERNMENT dollars since he became president !!!!
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Old July 11th, 2018, 07:00 PM   #58
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How did you determine that he is losing money? He refuses to release his tax returns so we have no idea how much he was making before he was elected.
How do these guys do it? Fake news? Media bias?

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Trump’s net worth has dropped more than $100 million over the past year, down to $2.8 billion—the lowest since his campaign for president. While that may still be a bigger number than most of us can ever hope to see next to our name, it marks a continued decline for Trump.

This is the president’s second drop in net worth in the last two years. Bloomberg notes that much of the decline can be attributed to falling revenue from his tower on Fifth Avenue in New York and from his golf courses, as well as the loss of buildings in Toronto, Manhattan, and Panama.
Donald Trump's Net Worth Keeps Dropping | Fortune

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#36bb8558141b

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#36bb8558141b

There are hundreds of articles the last two years about Trump revenues and net worth going down, as well as numerous articles and idiots here claiming he has been making money hand over fist since getting elected. TDS sufferers should hold a sidebar and get their sit in order before posting more TDS nonsense.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 07:28 PM   #59
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How did you determine that he is losing money? He refuses to release his tax returns so we have no idea how much he was making before he was elected.
Personal I believe that Trump won't release his financials because he isn't worth any where near what he says he is. I believe its all smoke and mirrors. I believe he OWES far more (to the Russians) than even the best estimates suggest.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 07:32 PM   #60
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"But there was an age when they were not biased."

When?
Generally speaking, probably before 1887. There was a clear distinction between news and opinion then. Now that line is muddled.
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