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Old February 28th, 2018, 10:49 AM   #11
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Oh Jesus! And a driver is another term for a one wood but when people use the word "driver" in day to day conversation they are generally referring to a person who operates a vehicle.
You made my point. Generally means “not always”

In the case of the 2016 election “hacking” meant using new methods to manipulate a favorable result and NOT the generally used definition of using a computer to illegally access/alter data.
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Old February 28th, 2018, 11:47 AM   #12
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Oh Jesus! And a driver is another term for a one wood but when people use the word "driver" in day to day conversation they are generally referring to a person who operates a vehicle.
Context kid, context.
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Context kid, context.
Exactly. If I was talking to someone and I said “I hit the ball 320 yards with my driver” you wouldn’t assume I just used my chauffeur to hit some kind of ball no matter what the “generally used” definition of the word is.
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Actually it IS “hacking”, it’s just not computer hacking.

As with many words the term “hacking” has many meanings and some meanings are evolving right in front of us.

The word hacking in relation to computers means to gain unauthorized access, but the term has come to mean any attempt (by computer or not) to use novel ways to make a task easier or to manipulate something in your favor.

The Russians used novel means (social media) to manipulate the election in their favor. That is bad enough but another (and in my opinion) bigger question is why were the Russians inclined to help Trump?

Trump may not have knowingly colluded, but that would mean he was playing the part of “useful idiot”
sounds more like you guys are just redefining words to cover your asses after you made a fool of yourselves.
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Old February 28th, 2018, 01:05 PM   #15
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You made my point. Generally means “not always”

In the case of the 2016 election “hacking” meant using new methods to manipulate a favorable result and NOT the generally used definition of using a computer to illegally access/alter data.
Lol.

That is some serious backpedaling there. Sure if you and the other leftists want to pretend that is what has been ment by "hacking the election" for the last two years or so was.

You know....sock puppets and stuff.


For christ sake.


How fucking disingenuous can you be?
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Old February 28th, 2018, 01:32 PM   #16
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Lol.

That is some serious backpedaling there. Sure if you and the other leftists want to pretend that is what has been ment by "hacking the election" for the last two years or so was.

You know....sock puppets and stuff.


For christ sake.


How fucking disingenuous can you be?
Silly word games.

What was meant by "hacking the election"?
And did that occur?
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Old February 28th, 2018, 02:12 PM   #17
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Lol.

That is some serious backpedaling there. Sure if you and the other leftists want to pretend that is what has been ment by "hacking the election" for the last two years or so was.

You know....sock puppets and stuff.


For christ sake.


How fucking disingenuous can you be?
It’s the conservatives who are attempting to narrow the definition of “hacking” so they can then write articles like the one in the OP explaining why it would be impossible to “hack” the election.

I don’t care what word(s) are used to describe what happened, I just want the truth.

Q: Did someone attempt to influence (manipulate, hack, interfere in, etc.) the 2016 Preseidential Election?
A: Yes

Q: Who?
A: Putin/The Russians

Q: Who were they trying to influence the election towards?
A: Donald Trump

Q: Were they successful?
A: There is probably no way of knowing. Trump won but that doesn’t prove that he could not have won without the Russian help.

Q: Did the Trump campaign collude with the Russians
A: Unknown at this time. There has been enough suspicious activity that a Special Counsel has been appointed to investigate and the investigation has led to numerous guilty pleas and indictments. If Trump was not colluding then it appears, at the very least, he played the role of “useful idiot”
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Old February 28th, 2018, 03:01 PM   #18
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It’s the conservatives who are attempting to narrow the definition of “hacking” so they can then write articles like the one in the OP explaining why it would be impossible to “hack” the election.

I don’t care what word(s) are used to describe what happened, I just want the truth.

Q: Did someone attempt to influence (manipulate, hack, interfere in, etc.) the 2016 Preseidential Election?
A: Yes

Q: Who?
A: Putin/The Russians

Q: Who were they trying to influence the election towards?
A: Donald Trump

Q: Were they successful?
A: There is probably no way of knowing. Trump won but that doesn’t prove that he could not have won without the Russian help.

Q: Did the Trump campaign collude with the Russians
A: Unknown at this time. There has been enough suspicious activity that a Special Counsel has been appointed to investigate and the investigation has led to numerous guilty pleas and indictments. If Trump was not colluding then it appears, at the very least, he played the role of “useful idiot”


Lol. First off the article was written in 2016 by CNN to demonstrate why trump was nuts when he was implying that the leftists were rigging the election against him.


Second. Hacking is a common term in todays vernacular that has a generally agreed upon meaning and that common meaning is exactly how it has been used in this specific situation up until just now.

So try and peddle it back as you wish it just looks foolish.


The rest is just speculation and IMO the more that comes up from this russia malarkey it shows that lord trump was right all along.

The leftists were infact trying to nefariously influence the election.

They used social media and google to silence opposing view points and promote pro clintion.

It came out that the DNC conspired against sanders even funneling money from his campaign to clintons.

Therr was at least one group of pro clinton trolls unleashed on the internet that i believe that it was over one million dollars spent on it (see correct the record)

Comey and lynch killed the clinton investigation

Slick willy has a secret meeting w/ lynch

There is all Debbie Wasserman Schultz scandals

All of that leads into Schultz and Kaine playing DNC chair as they manipulated the Democratic party for clinton

None of that is even getting into the wire tapping and the possibility that this all may lead all the way back to Obama as none of that has been proven yet.


Soooooooo


Go ahead and keep screaming tbat russians "hacked" the election using Facebook and Twitter accounts against a bunch of old people who do not understand how the internet works. Remember, if it is online it must be true.
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Lol. First off the article was written in 2016 by CNN to demonstrate why trump was nuts when he was implying that the leftists were rigging the election against him.


Second. Hacking is a common term in todays vernacular that has a generally agreed upon meaning and that common meaning is exactly how it has been used in this specific situation up until just now.

So try and peddle it back as you wish it just looks foolish.


The rest is just speculation and IMO the more that comes up from this russia malarkey it shows that lord trump was right all along.

The leftists were infact trying to nefariously influence the election.

They used social media and google to silence opposing view points and promote pro clintion.

It came out that the DNC conspired against sanders even funneling money from his campaign to clintons.

Therr was at least one group of pro clinton trolls unleashed on the internet that i believe that it was over one million dollars spent on it (see correct the record)

Comey and lynch killed the clinton investigation

Slick willy has a secret meeting w/ lynch

There is all Debbie Wasserman Schultz scandals

All of that leads into Schultz and Kaine playing DNC chair as they manipulated the Democratic party for clinton

None of that is even getting into the wire tapping and the possibility that this all may lead all the way back to Obama as none of that has been proven yet.


Soooooooo


Go ahead and keep screaming tbat russians "hacked" the election using Facebook and Twitter accounts against a bunch of old people who do not understand how the internet works. Remember, if it is online it must be true.
Yeah, the guilty pleas and indictments are just “speculation”. Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night when the idea that you helped get this moron elected wakes you up at 3am in a cold sweat.
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If Sabcat HAS a choice between Team Trump/Putin or FBI/Mueller? I think we all know which team he'd GO WITH.
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