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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:13 AM   #21
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So you are utterly confident that our Representative Democracy is 100% free of some un-elected corrupting influence??.. I'm not....
NOTHING and NO institution is 100% free of corruption.
Don't be silly and try to talk sense.
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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:16 AM   #22
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Ike would be considered a "leftie:" today if only for his support of Labor Unions and his warnings about the MIC.
In 1952 Ike did not know if he was a Republican or a Democrat....Truman thought he had Ike recruited as his successor.... Ike fooled Harry...

I see Ike's warning of the MIC as the progenitor of the "Deep State"....Except today it encompasses much more than just the Military and Industrial component...
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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:18 AM   #23
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Why don't we call it what it actually is: The International Jewry?
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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:19 AM   #24
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NOTHING and NO institution is 100% free of corruption.
Don't be silly and try to talk sense.
If Michael is calling the idea of a "Deep State" a conspiracy that is exactly what he was inferring.... I asked him the question not you....so don't be giving me any of your annoying shit.. Or answer the question intelligently....
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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:21 AM   #25
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Why don't we call it what it actually is: The International Jewry?
What do "Jews" have to do with it?? want to clarify that nonsense..??
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Old March 29th, 2018, 07:50 AM   #26
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If you would have told me about a "Deep State" or shadow Government 10 years ago, I would have said "Get out of here with that conspiracy crap".. But, watching the events of the last couple of years.... I believe that there is a Shadow Government at work here.....

Open minds would ask...1) Who are they...2) Is there a serious threat to our Representative Democracy... 3) when did it start.... 4) how will it end....

As for #1 Who are they??.... Not all, but a small cadre of un-elected career bureaucrats who survive from one administration to another.....the top echelon of the EPA...NSA.. CIA...FBI and home-land Security... a cadre of career government lawyers...a few CEO's of our top Corporations and members of the establishment of both parties...

Forget the bi-polar political paradigm.... It is not Democrat v Republican..... It is a cabal of career politicians of both sides who believe they were ordained to be the decision makers for the rest of us ignorant untermunchen.

Now are there any intelligent answers to the rest of the questions??
You have anger issues who forgets recent history for instance the Rockwell Think Tank which is the mover behind the scene. I misspelled the name of the Think Tank but you know who I mean.
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Old March 29th, 2018, 08:03 AM   #27
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You have anger issues who forgets recent history for instance the Rockwell Think Tank which is the mover behind the scene. I misspelled the name of the Think Tank but you know who I mean.
No, I don't....I don't have a clue what you are going on about....
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What do "Jews" have to do with it?? want to clarify that nonsense..??
Good goy. I-I-I m-m-mean good guy!
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Good goy. I-I-I m-m-mean good guy!
You going to answer Jim's quite logical and clear question or are you not?
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In 1952 Ike did not know if he was a Republican or a Democrat....Truman thought he had Ike recruited as his successor.... Ike fooled Harry...

I see Ike's warning of the MIC as the progenitor of the "Deep State"....Except today it encompasses much more than just the Military and Industrial component...
Yep.

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