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Old July 26th, 2015, 07:44 AM   #1
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Civil Asset Forfeiture

the laws that allow this in most of the US are unconstitutional and wrong.

you end up with women and children deprived of the family vehicle because daddy went our and tried to pick up a prostitute.

you end up with businesses whose bank accounts are seized because so many of their customers paid in cash.

the idea that cops can take your money and property and then you have to prove it wasn't criminally obtained is contrary to the constitution and common sense.

that cops get to take your property and put use it for themselves puts the police in a blatant conflict of interest. their job should be to objectively enforce the law without trying to fund their own departments. It's like they're bribing themselves.
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Old July 26th, 2015, 07:55 AM   #2
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This issue is making news outside your borders. Both the BBC and CBC have recently had op-eds slamming the way asset forfeiture is applied in the US. Many if not most agree, webguy.
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the laws that allow this in most of the US are unconstitutional and wrong.

you end up with women and children deprived of the family vehicle because daddy went our and tried to pick up a prostitute.

you end up with businesses whose bank accounts are seized because so many of their customers paid in cash.

the idea that cops can take your money and property and then you have to prove it wasn't criminally obtained is contrary to the constitution and common sense.

that cops get to take your property and put use it for themselves puts the police in a blatant conflict of interest. their job should be to objectively enforce the law without trying to fund their own departments. It's like they're bribing themselves.
Does the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 ring a bell?

Ronald Reagan. The gift that keeps on giving.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...jUS8KDQw5VIATw
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Does the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 ring a bell?

Ronald Reagan. The gift that keeps on giving.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...jUS8KDQw5VIATw
What exactly does Reagan have to do with asset forfeiture?
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Old July 26th, 2015, 08:18 AM   #5
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This issue is making news outside your borders. Both the BBC and CBC have recently had op-eds slamming the way asset forfeiture is applied in the US. Many if not most agree, webguy.

It's now possible for a drug dealer to serve time in a forfeiture-financed prison after being arrested by agents driving a forfeiture-provided automobile while working in a forfeiture-funded sting operation.

—Reagan attorney general Richard Thornburgh in 1989
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Reagan was POTUS in 1827!?

See: The Palmyra, 25 U.S. (12 Wheat.) 1 (1827).
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It was Reagan who started this garbage. It was a knee jerk reaction to a shoot out at a Miami area strip mall that was seen on national television. I would suggest the documentary cocaine cowboys. I think Reagan was the greatest president of my lifetime. He fucked this up. It happens. If you think any politician is perfect without flaws..put down the kool-aid
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Last time I looked Congress passed legislation, at least in the 1980's.


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Last time I looked Congress passed legislation, at least in the 1980's.


Indeed it is, and a president signs it into law. Reagan pushed for, supported and with Congress approval began the horrific war on drugs. The patriot act is the only thing more horrific. Ironically the patriot act is used on, yes you guessed, the war on drugs more than it is terrorism
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The war on drugs was started well before Reagan.


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