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Old March 5th, 2016, 02:02 AM   #1
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ADX Supermax fascinates me, but so little information.

I have always been somewhat fascinated in prisons and the prison system, especially in the infamous Supermax Prison in Florence Colorado, on the ugly side of the state, in a hot plains prairie

The prisoners are in their cells for 23 hours a day plus an hour walking around in an area of a dog kennel. They are in complete isolation and they rarely get to even communicate with each other, except in their isolated kennel when they can scream to the other guy walking around aimlessly in his kennel.

Their cells are poured concrete with a steel metal shower (which to me looks like a standup coffin, which makes the cell even more scary, morbid and isolated). Their is a sliver of a window so the inmate can see a tiny strip of blue sky, or rainy sky, or precious flakes of snow. Probably a treat is to just feel the cold or the sun's warmth on the glass.

My understanding is that these guys cannot talk to anyone except their lawyers because it is their Constitutional Rights. I do not think that they are allowed to speak even with immediate family or spouse. Some of these people even have gag orders on them where they cannot mail out.

Does the mail get read by the prison before it is sent out to the mailee? Is "mailee" even a word? Mailer, but Mailee? What is interesting is that a lot of these guys are prolific letter writers because they have absolutely nothing else to do. I would think for these guys, a wonderful pleasure would be just to walk a distance, walk a mile, around a neighborhood, walking. Instead of pacing to and fro going insane.

How do people keep from going insane in total isolation? I wonder if their dreams haunt them. I have some nice dreams that I am visiting Europe, or hit the lottery, or getting laid, then wake up to cement walled nightmare.

The facility has a small black and white TV in the cells, but the programming is from the government, not cable. I saw or heard that it was educational classes and religious programming. I would love to see what they would show the prisoners.

It seems to me that this place is very private and it hasn't let the press of anyone to go inside that prison and see what happens there. I also think the complete isolation is inhumane, it would be more loving and kind to just execute them. If I were a juror debating someone's fate of either Life Without Parole or Death, I would say that Life without Parole in ADX is the worst punishment.

I would also love to be able to speak to guards there to see what it is like to work there. What the routine is. I would say that they have a camera on each cell 24/7. What happens, again if a prisoner honest to God goes insane writing "Redrum" with his own brown, sticky waste, doing a bad, but loud Jack Nicholson imitation which does little than annoy the guards.

Seems like being a guard there would be very simple, except to move the inmate from his cell to the dog kennel and back. Probably have that down to a science. If the toilet backs up, does the repairmen go in? Probably almost no maintenance but if the toilet never backs up, why don't they sell prison toilets for the house market? Aircraft toilets are scary as hell, and I hate to use them. You could drown and flush a midget in an aircraft toilet. But being in an airplane for many many hours is like prison. Prison like food, in a cramped place where you cannot control the temperature, in close proximity with strangers, no Wifi, nothing to read except what you bought yourself...

...and worst of all, turning off all the lights on the plane in long international flights. Why do they do this? So annoying, dark, can't see shit, which is not fun looking for my black Ipad on a dark seat cushion. Planes are flying jails from the airport til you take the diamonds and dope from one's intimate cavity. Which always happens in prisons where guards have to look up people's buttholes. Imagine if this is your job, looking in people's buttholes. Or having to dig through some inmate's feces looking for small bags, or being the guard who stands and watches the inmate who finally goes to give up the goods. It seems to me that being a prison guard is just nasty unpleasant work. But it seems that the ADX guards have not much to do since everyone is in their cells and rarely leaves.

I try to watch programs on YouTube about the facility, but there is precious little content about the place. Is anyone here from Colorado? I would actually visit the place if I could. Does Florence have any guard bars? What is a good bar name which is patronized by a prison, The Pokie? The Hoosgow? The Joint? The Sweatbox? The Hole? The Lockup? Stalag 14 (selling German brew, sausages and saurkraut!)

ADX fascinates me and wish their was more information about it.
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At least this sort of imprisonment prevents unholy and icky gay buggery and/or sodomy. Therefor, it is a most righteously loving and Christian method of punishment. These poor sinners already are handicapped getting into Heaven with their horrible sins that got them there, having gay relations may tip the balance to an eternity of F&B.
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At least this sort of imprisonment prevents unholy and icky gay buggery and/or sodomy. Therefor, it is a most righteously loving and Christian method of punishment. These poor sinners already are handicapped getting into Heaven with their horrible sins that got them there, having gay relations may tip the balance to an eternity of F&B.
you think more about gay sex than any gay man I've ever known in my life.
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At least this sort of imprisonment prevents unholy and icky gay buggery and/or sodomy. Therefor, it is a most righteously loving and Christian method of punishment. These poor sinners already are handicapped getting into Heaven with their horrible sins that got them there, having gay relations may tip the balance to an eternity of F&B.
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Death penalty cases cost far more than just locking them up. These days between 1 and 2 million dollars. It also makes celebrities out of some of the worse criminals in the country. I think simply being locked away where no one will ever see you again and where no one save your victims will remember your name, is in some ways far more fitting than being put to death. Imagine being a fairly young person when you commit your crime and looking at decades of this type of solitary.
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Death penalty cases cost far more than just locking them up. These days between 1 and 2 million dollars. It also makes celebrities out of some of the worse criminals in the country. I think simply being locked away where no one will ever see you again and where no one save your victims will remember your name, is in some ways far more fitting than being put to death. Imagine being a fairly young person when you commit your crime and looking at decades of this type of solitary.
The did away with the supermax in Illinois due to the political correctness of it being inhumane. This is what the leftardism says

Hundreds Of Illinois Prison Staff Allegedly Choked, Beat, And Sexually Assaulted Inmates | ThinkProgress

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Prison guard who survived house explosion is killed by inmate, police say - Chicago Tribune
Pontiac prison guard may need surgery after assault by inmate | Local Crime & Courts | pantagraph.com
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I think probably both narratives are correct. Being a prison guard is very stressful and 99% of the stress is caused by the inmates and their behavior. If they can keep the inmates under control in any way fashion, they will. this is why prisons used to be very brutal by the people who ran them.

People who go to Maximum security prison are 90% very violent people and probably 70% mentally ill, and they live in fairly severe conditions that are both dreadfully boring and/or violent. A prison is a loud place that gets on people's nerves. When you are in a closet sized cement room with another man and watching this man take a dump and smelling it. The awful, sloppy food, usually done up by prison labor. A lot of these people have been in isolation, which is difficult on the psyche.
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I have always been somewhat fascinated in prisons and the prison system, especially in the infamous Supermax Prison in Florence Colorado, on the ugly side of the state, in a hot plains prairie

The prisoners are in their cells for 23 hours a day plus an hour walking around in an area of a dog kennel. They are in complete isolation and they rarely get to even communicate with each other, except in their isolated kennel when they can scream to the other guy walking around aimlessly in his kennel.

Their cells are poured concrete with a steel metal shower (which to me looks like a standup coffin, which makes the cell even more scary, morbid and isolated). Their is a sliver of a window so the inmate can see a tiny strip of blue sky, or rainy sky, or precious flakes of snow. Probably a treat is to just feel the cold or the sun's warmth on the glass.

My understanding is that these guys cannot talk to anyone except their lawyers because it is their Constitutional Rights. I do not think that they are allowed to speak even with immediate family or spouse. Some of these people even have gag orders on them where they cannot mail out.

Does the mail get read by the prison before it is sent out to the mailee? Is "mailee" even a word? Mailer, but Mailee? What is interesting is that a lot of these guys are prolific letter writers because they have absolutely nothing else to do. I would think for these guys, a wonderful pleasure would be just to walk a distance, walk a mile, around a neighborhood, walking. Instead of pacing to and fro going insane.

How do people keep from going insane in total isolation? I wonder if their dreams haunt them. I have some nice dreams that I am visiting Europe, or hit the lottery, or getting laid, then wake up to cement walled nightmare.

The facility has a small black and white TV in the cells, but the programming is from the government, not cable. I saw or heard that it was educational classes and religious programming. I would love to see what they would show the prisoners.

It seems to me that this place is very private and it hasn't let the press of anyone to go inside that prison and see what happens there. I also think the complete isolation is inhumane, it would be more loving and kind to just execute them. If I were a juror debating someone's fate of either Life Without Parole or Death, I would say that Life without Parole in ADX is the worst punishment.

I would also love to be able to speak to guards there to see what it is like to work there. What the routine is. I would say that they have a camera on each cell 24/7. What happens, again if a prisoner honest to God goes insane writing "Redrum" with his own brown, sticky waste, doing a bad, but loud Jack Nicholson imitation which does little than annoy the guards.

Seems like being a guard there would be very simple, except to move the inmate from his cell to the dog kennel and back. Probably have that down to a science. If the toilet backs up, does the repairmen go in? Probably almost no maintenance but if the toilet never backs up, why don't they sell prison toilets for the house market? Aircraft toilets are scary as hell, and I hate to use them. You could drown and flush a midget in an aircraft toilet. But being in an airplane for many many hours is like prison. Prison like food, in a cramped place where you cannot control the temperature, in close proximity with strangers, no Wifi, nothing to read except what you bought yourself...

...and worst of all, turning off all the lights on the plane in long international flights. Why do they do this? So annoying, dark, can't see shit, which is not fun looking for my black Ipad on a dark seat cushion. Planes are flying jails from the airport til you take the diamonds and dope from one's intimate cavity. Which always happens in prisons where guards have to look up people's buttholes. Imagine if this is your job, looking in people's buttholes. Or having to dig through some inmate's feces looking for small bags, or being the guard who stands and watches the inmate who finally goes to give up the goods. It seems to me that being a prison guard is just nasty unpleasant work. But it seems that the ADX guards have not much to do since everyone is in their cells and rarely leaves.

I try to watch programs on YouTube about the facility, but there is precious little content about the place. Is anyone here from Colorado? I would actually visit the place if I could. Does Florence have any guard bars? What is a good bar name which is patronized by a prison, The Pokie? The Hoosgow? The Joint? The Sweatbox? The Hole? The Lockup? Stalag 14 (selling German brew, sausages and saurkraut!)

ADX fascinates me and wish their was more information about it.
Is there a different Florence, Co. and supermax prison?
I've been to Florence, Co. and there is a prison there. But this Florence is located very close to Canyon City and is not on a "hot plains prairie." There is a rather pleasant, clear stream than runs just outside the town.
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