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Old August 6th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #1
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Gay uses hate for crime

A gay man in Lakeland, Fla., who reached out for help after claiming that his mobile home had been torched by arsonists, has been charged with the crime, The Ledger newspaper reports. A Lake land fire investigator on Wednesday charged Christopher Michael Robertson, 23, with one count of arson, burning to defraud an insurer, two counts of false and fraudulent insurance claims, and making a false report to a law enforcement officer, according to the Lakeland Fire Department.

The July 25 fire gutted the home Robertson shared with his partner, Paul Day, at Kings Manor Mobile Home Park. Several valuables were stolen—including a TV and a laptop computer—and "Die fag'' was spray-painted on the front steps of the home, the couple told Lake land firefighters, making the fire appear to be a hate crime.

Robertson confessed to the crime, saying he wanted insurance money from the mobile home, said Lakeland fire spokeswoman Cheryl Edwards. He also said he used the fire as a "scare tactic'' to motivate his partner into moving out of the mobile home park, Edwards added. Day, who was interviewed by The Advocate in September, had no knowledge of his partner's setting the fire and was not charged, the fire department said.

Florida gay arson victim allegedly torched his own home *|*News | Advocate.com
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And your point is?



The reality is that there is no such thing as a law, that is put into place to protect people, that cannot be abused.
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And your point is?



The reality is that there is no such thing as a law, that is put into place to protect people, that cannot be abused.


Not only that but he had to dredge this old chestnut up from three years ago. What a lame attempt at baiting.
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And your point is?



The reality is that there is no such thing as a law, that is put into place to protect people, that cannot be abused.
These cases generate a lot of publicity, which usually results in a lot of attention being given to the investigation, which usually results in the person being caught.



When will stupid criminals learn that the last thing they want is media attention being drawn to their case?



These cases are rare so there wasn't any viable point to the post.

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Not only that but he had to dredge this old chestnut up from three years ago. What a lame attempt at baiting.
The Advocate, a gay oriented media outlet, published the article. The mainstream media could learn a lot from the special interest (bad phrase, but couldn't think of a better one) media thats willing to cover the bad and good in a fair manner.



Our local black paper has surprisingly little civil rights coverage and a lot of community and church coverage. It has been critical of black race baiters. When it reports on a discrimination issue, it usually is one that is pretty clear and they don't pander to our local versions of Jesse Jackson. The local mainstream paper has race discussed every day, which does absolutely nothing to promote good race relations.



Why do blacks continue to elect people to office who humiliate us? The black councilman in Dallas, John Wiley Price, saying the astronomical term "black hole" was racist? Then, some other monkey (yea, I said monkey, I'm a racist bastard) locally got on our radio station to defend him by saying no one would know that "black hole" was an astrological sign.



"I was born February 29 under the sign of black hole."





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Not only that but he had to dredge this old chestnut up from three years ago. What a lame attempt at baiting.


Let's hope you will be equally conscientious about pointing out baiting posts from the other side - i.e. yours!
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And your point is?



The reality is that there is no such thing as a law, that is put into place to protect people, that cannot be abused.
Absolutely, laws can be abused but that is not my point.



Here is a more in depth article.



Articles on insurance fraud

In early summer 2005, fire broke out at gay nightclubs in Texas and Arkansas and at a Virginia church whose national board had just endorsed same-sex marriages. Authorities suspected arson.



That climate of hate inspired fear in many gays. But for Christopher Michael Robertson, it inspired a fake hate crime designed to steal insurance money.



In July, Robertson and partner Paul Day returned from shopping to find that fire had gutted the home they shared in Kings Manor Mobile Home Park in Lakeland, Fla.



“Die fag'' was spray-painted on the front steps of the mobile home. Several household valuables, including a TV and a laptop computer, also were missing. The couple said they had invested $15,000 in renovations over the previous three months, and the fire had ruined all of it.



Harassed by bigots

Day, who had lived in the mobile home park for two years, said he had faced anti-gay harassment before. Rocks also were thrown at the house where he’d previously lived, and his mailbox was riddled with gunshot. At the trailer park, teens and young adults taunted him as he checked his mail.



But the ensuing publicity brought the couple unexpected support. Sympathizers set up an account for donations, and websites and blogs decried the bigotry the couple had faced. It seemed likely that the arsonist, if caught, would be prosecuted for a hate crime.

But Robertson soon admitted he’d started the fire, pouring a flammable substance over the carpet and igniting it.

His fake hate crime had dual motives.



Wanted insurance money

One goal was pure profit: He lied to his insurer that someone had stolen the couple’s household goods. But in fact, Robertson had stashed the missing items in a storage unit and simply wanted an insurance payday. He also used the hate crime as a scare tactic to try to persuade his partner to move. “I don't want to be here anymore. It's stressing me out," he told the Orlando Sentinel.
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Not only that but he had to dredge this old chestnut up from three years ago. What a lame attempt at baiting.
LOL

I read this article in a magazine the other day.

This board is dominated by Gay issues.

I'm just trying to stimulate debate here.



Give the old man a break!
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I read this article in a magazine the other day.

This board is dominated by Gay issues.

I'm just trying to stimulate debate here.



Give the old man a break!


Sorry no breaks.



If you don't toe the homosexual line you are nothing but a hateful homophobic bigot!

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These cases generate a lot of publicity, which usually results in a lot of attention being given to the investigation, which usually results in the person being caught.



When will stupid criminals learn that the last thing they want is media attention being drawn to their case?



These cases are rare so there wasn't any viable point to the post.

I disagree.



This young man ruined his relationship and life over a false notion that his crime would be overlooked because of the appearance of a hate crime against Gays.
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