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Old January 28th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #1
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OAKLAND -- Oakland police deployed tear gas and smoke at about 500 Occupy Oakland marchers Saturday afternoon, arresting 19 protesters after they attempted to enter a vacant convention center, police said.
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In the first major clash between protesters and police since November, three officers were injured, as protesters threw bottles, metal pipe, rocks, spray cans and "improvised explosive devices," and lit flares, police said, in a large skirmish on the front steps of the Oakland Museum of California.




The marchers had announced plans to occupy a vacant building to create the movement's headquarters, with plans for a
two-day party. Police and city officials vowed to not allow it.




In what has become a weekly march, about 250 protesters gathered around noon at Frank Ogawa Plaza for a rally, according to a city of Oakland press release. At 1:30 p.m., the group began marching with a crowd of about 450 protesters. Forty-five minutes later, some of the marchers entered the campus of Laney College, city officials said.



That was when police first fired tear gas, a witness said.




At 2:50 p.m., marchers began tearing down perimeter fences around the vacant Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, city officials said. Police declared an unlawful assembly and fired more tear gas.




A demonstrator named Ian from Marin County said police fired rubber bullets as well, after protesters began hurling items at them.




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The Democrats embraced the OWS movement when it benefitted them. Now they are going to have to reap what they sowed. Hatred is their method. I don't think the American people will go along with hate.



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Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.
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Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.
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Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


I don't think so, the Boston Tea Party event was a protest against tax cuts. In today's terms, the Wal-martization of tea. It's a direct comparison for one of many issue the OWS protesters are angry about. To say that these Americans protesting today are less patriotic (and many of the tea party group has joined them) than the American protesters of the pass is wrong.You'll make a great British solider Perkins.
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[quote name='Fayt' timestamp='1327855705' post='379244']

Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


I don't think so, the Boston Tea Party event was a protest against tax cuts. In today's terms, the Wal-martization of tea. It's a direct comparison for one of many issue the OWS protesters are angry about. To say that these Americans protesting today are less patriotic (and many of the tea party group has joined them) than the American protesters of the pass is wrong.You'll make a great British solider Perkins.

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The Boston Tea Party was about "Tax Cuts". Well, I've never heard that one before. Could you explain that to me. Thanks.



You can cease with the personal little tags on your posts. They aren't gonna work into making me feel guilty about my opinions.
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[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1327855899' post='379246']

[quote name='Fayt' timestamp='1327855705' post='379244']

Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


I don't think so, the Boston Tea Party event was a protest against tax cuts. In today's terms, the Wal-martization of tea. It's a direct comparison for one of many issue the OWS protesters are angry about. To say that these Americans protesting today are less patriotic (and many of the tea party group has joined them) than the American protesters of the pass is wrong.You'll make a great British solider Perkins.

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The Boston Tea Party was about "Tax Cuts". Well, I've never heard that one before. Could you explain that to me. Thanks.



You can cease with the personal little tags on your posts. They aren't gonna work into making me feel guilty about my opinions.

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Just as I thought. Something that most tea partiers don't know, is that the original Boston Tea Party was a protest against tax cuts called the Tax Act of 1773. This was by the British government that gave millions of dollars in tax breaks to the British East Indian Company on taxes that they had already on inventory in England that was destine for the American Colonies. You know why would the colonists be angry at the British crown for giving a tax break to the East Indian Company? Because the East Indian Company was going to use that cheaper un-taxed tea to put out of business the small entrepreneur business in the east cost of the U.S..



Yup, so the Boston Tea Party was a protest against corporate rule. You're essentially calling our heroes of the pass, fools. That's why I gave you that label as British supporter, because of your (not to be disrespectful) ignorance of our history. The OWS protesters aren't fools. They're Americans and I just find you bashing them in the historical sense, un-American. My "constitutionalist" friend.



Speaking of history I have to head to the library, bye.
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[quote name='Fayt' timestamp='1327856492' post='379251']

[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1327855899' post='379246']

[quote name='Fayt' timestamp='1327855705' post='379244']

Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


I don't think so, the Boston Tea Party event was a protest against tax cuts. In today's terms, the Wal-martization of tea. It's a direct comparison for one of many issue the OWS protesters are angry about. To say that these Americans protesting today are less patriotic (and many of the tea party group has joined them) than the American protesters of the pass is wrong.You'll make a great British solider Perkins.

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The Boston Tea Party was about "Tax Cuts". Well, I've never heard that one before. Could you explain that to me. Thanks.



You can cease with the personal little tags on your posts. They aren't gonna work into making me feel guilty about my opinions.

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Just as I thought. Something that most tea partiers don't know, is that the original Boston Tea Party was a protest against tax cuts called the Tax Act of 1773. This was by the British government that gave millions of dollars in tax breaks to the British East Indian Company on taxes that they had already on inventory in England that was destine for the American Colonies. You know why would the colonists be angry at the British crown for giving a tax break to the East Indian Company? Because the East Indian Company was going to use that cheaper un-taxed tea to put out of business the small entrepreneur business in the east cost of the U.S..



Yup, so the Boston Tea Party was a protest against corporate rule. You're essentially calling our heroes of the pass, fools. That's why I gave you that label as British supporter, because of your (not to be disrespectful) ignorance of our history. The OWS protesters aren't fools. They're Americans and I just find you bashing them in the historical sense, un-American. My "constitutionalist" friend.



Speaking of history I have to head to the library, bye.

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So how many rapes, muggings, roberries, drug overdoses, and destruction of private property occurred during the Boston Tea Party?
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Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


The people involved in the Occupy movement have a percentage of "losers" in it as does the Tea Party. However, both movements are unusual examples of Americans getting off their asses and doing something.
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[quote name='Fayt' timestamp='1327855705' post='379244']

Would you say the same about the Civil War, Shay's Rebellion and the Boston Tea Party event? And for your info most of the OWS protesters are not democrat, they're mostly independents with a default message that's democratic. You would make the British Monarchy doing the Civil War and Boston Tea arty very very happy Perkins.


That is a silly comparison. You're comparing patriotic men who put their lives on the line for their cause with a bunch of losers.


The people involved in the Occupy movement have a percentage of "losers" in it as does the Tea Party. However, both movements are unusual examples of Americans getting off their asses and doing something.

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I totally disagree. I never read of any rapes, robberies, destruction of property, vandalism, people crapping on police cas, getting arrested by the hundreds, etc, etc. I've been to many Tea Party events and never witnessed one arrest or disturbance.



Actually, the Tea Party people have jobs and only meet for a few hours once in a while to share information and then it's back to their lives. The OWS people are squatters who demanded everyone take care of them and then proceeded to cost taxpayers millions in clean up and police. There is absolutely no comparison to the people at Tea Party events and the people at OWS. None whatsoever.
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