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Old January 31st, 2012, 01:31 PM   #1
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This is just too sad. The so-called protectors of human rights around the world do not have much to say on this except the standard lame......"Christians are just as bad".



That would be a good start. Are Christians just as bad?



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Old January 31st, 2012, 03:27 PM   #2
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Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.
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But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic.


Indeed it is.
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Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 03:46 PM   #5
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Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


A "tribal culture?"



You mean, like Native American Indians?



Most Muslims are just as, if not more, urbane, educated and sophisticated as anybody else.



There are back-assed, superstitious people of every ethnic group, culture and religion living in the U.S.



And violence, weird ideas and murder cut across the board. Charge every murder as murder, and prosecute accordingly.



And yes, the "logic" being used here is the same as what I used.



You are desperate for your religion/culture to be "superior" to others. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053183' post='379925

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328052463' post='379918']

Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


A "tribal culture?"



You mean, like Native American Indians?



Most Muslims are just as, if not more, urbane, educated and sophisticated as anybody else.



There are back-assed, superstitious people of every ethnic group, culture and religion living in the U.S.



And violence, weird ideas and murder cut across the board. Charge every murder as murder, and prosecute accordingly.



And yes, the "logic" being used here is the same as what I used.



You are desperate for your religion/culture to be "superior" to others. Get over it.

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Western civilization and culture is far superior to Afghanistan islamic tribal culture. Yes, far superior.
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[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053183' post='379925']

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328052463' post='379918']

Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


A "tribal culture?"



You mean, like Native American Indians?



Most Muslims are just as, if not more, urbane, educated and sophisticated as anybody else.



There are back-assed, superstitious people of every ethnic group, culture and religion living in the U.S.



And violence, weird ideas and murder cut across the board. Charge every murder as murder, and prosecute accordingly.



And yes, the "logic" being used here is the same as what I used.



You are desperate for your religion/culture to be "superior" to others. Get over it.

[/quote]



Western civilization and culture is far superior to Afghanistan islamic tribal culture. Yes, far superior.

[/quote]



In some ways, yes, in others -- no.



Either way, there's no reason to think Afghan immigrants won't be just as good Americans as anybody else.



Western Civilization likes to pat itself on the back -- and its accomplishments are many. However, it's also the culture that brought us two world wars, the holocaust, the atomic bomb and a nihilistic, hedonistic, materialistic, obese, dis-connected world in which people are numbed by over-stimulation, spiritually retarded and most don't even know who their neighbors are.



I wouldn't be to quick to extoll the virtues of this glittering monster we've created by trying to foist it as innately "superior" to any other way of life.



Like everything else, it's rotting from the inside out -- yet also re-creating itself -- like the Pheonix of legend. Clinging to the past is stupid and pointless. Things go one direction -- forward, and a new civilization is arising even as the old one collapses.



"Multiculturalism" is also an essentially meaningless word --- like "homophobia." It's just political correctness in reverse.



America has always been made up of many cultures. Including Muslims.



And there have always been so-called real Americans bellowing about the "undesirables." When the first of my ancestors be become Americans came here -- people called them "Bog Irish Bastards" and "Krauts."
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Originally Posted by Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053699' post='379929

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328053579' post='379927']

[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053183' post='379925']

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328052463' post='379918']

Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


A "tribal culture?"



You mean, like Native American Indians?



Most Muslims are just as, if not more, urbane, educated and sophisticated as anybody else.



There are back-assed, superstitious people of every ethnic group, culture and religion living in the U.S.



And violence, weird ideas and murder cut across the board. Charge every murder as murder, and prosecute accordingly.



And yes, the "logic" being used here is the same as what I used.



You are desperate for your religion/culture to be "superior" to others. Get over it.

[/quote]



Western civilization and culture is far superior to Afghanistan islamic tribal culture. Yes, far superior.

[/quote]



In some ways, yes, in others -- no.



Either way, there's no reason to think Afghan immigrants won't be just as good Americans as anybody else.



Western Civilization likes to pat itself on the back -- and its accomplishments are many. However, it's also the culture that brought us two world wars, the holocaust, the atomic bomb and a nihilistic, hedonistic, materialistic, obese, dis-connected world in which people are numbed by over-stimulation, spiritually retarded and most don't even know who their neighbors are.



I wouldn't be to quick to extoll the virtues of this glittering monster we've created by trying to foist it as innately "superior" to any other way of life.



Like everything else, it's rotting from the inside out -- yet also re-creating itself -- like the Pheonix of legend. Clinging to the past is stupid and pointless. Things go one direction -- forward, and a new civilization is arising even as the old one collapses.



"Multiculturalism" is also an essentially meaningless word --- like "homophobia." It's just political correctness in reverse.



America has always been made up of many cultures. Including Muslims.



And there have always been so-called real Americans bellowing about the "undesirables." When the first of my ancestors be become Americans came here -- people called them "Bog Irish Bastards" and "Krauts."

[/quote]



No, western culture did not bring those things. Nazism and Communism are responsible for far more death and destruction than civilized western culture like we find in western Europe and North America. Fighting totalitarianism is not wrong and we are certainly not a "glittering monster".



What is collapsing the USA is political correctness in the name of diversity and multiculturalism and turning our back on our founding principles that made us strong.



My ancesters stepped into the same situation. When people came here they became "Americans". Not these days. Now Americans have to bend over for whoever comes here to make sure they aren't offended. Forget that. When you come here, you're becoming American or get the hell out and take your family "honor" with you.
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Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


How is it being tolerated? Do you think that people who do this will not be punished?



As usual, you post this and try to pin it on liberals. I am liberal, and I find this horrific......but I don't assume that all Muslims in America or Canada will do this or even a small portion of them. This is a terrible thing that happened and your attempts to indict liberals has failed miserably.
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Originally Posted by mytmouse57' timestamp='1328054227' post='379936

[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053699' post='379929']

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328053579' post='379927']

[quote name='Tony Perkins' timestamp='1328053183' post='379925']

[quote name='mytmouse57' timestamp='1328052463' post='379918']

Treat the cases as murder, and prosecute them accordingly. To hell with political correctness, and the supposed "justification" for the motive.



But the under text here, that "if you let Muslims in to your country, this is what happens," is vile, and xenophobic. Muslims have more than proven themselves to be good citizens of Canada and the U.S. Most Muslim families are no less happy or more violent than any other families.



Not to mention, the thinking is irrational and unfair. It totally discounts other factors -- such as pre-existing dysfunction within the households that existed completely apart from religion or culture.



Look, my state, Wyoming, is one of the most "white" in the Union. Not to mention, highly Christian and Republican/Conservative. And yet, we have unusually high rates of substance abuse, domestic violence and suicide.



So, using the same "logic," I can conclude that whites in general, and conservative Republican Christians in particular, are prone to getting wasted, beating their wives and shooting themselves.


You could use that logic, but that is not the logic used here. We have a tribal culture living within modern western culture. That has nothing to do with conservatie republican Christians, etc, etc, etc.


A "tribal culture?"



You mean, like Native American Indians?



Most Muslims are just as, if not more, urbane, educated and sophisticated as anybody else.



There are back-assed, superstitious people of every ethnic group, culture and religion living in the U.S.



And violence, weird ideas and murder cut across the board. Charge every murder as murder, and prosecute accordingly.



And yes, the "logic" being used here is the same as what I used.



You are desperate for your religion/culture to be "superior" to others. Get over it.

[/quote]



Western civilization and culture is far superior to Afghanistan islamic tribal culture. Yes, far superior.

[/quote]



In some ways, yes, in others -- no.



Either way, there's no reason to think Afghan immigrants won't be just as good Americans as anybody else.



Western Civilization likes to pat itself on the back -- and its accomplishments are many. However, it's also the culture that brought us two world wars, the holocaust, the atomic bomb and a nihilistic, hedonistic, materialistic, obese, dis-connected world in which people are numbed by over-stimulation, spiritually retarded and most don't even know who their neighbors are.



I wouldn't be to quick to extoll the virtues of this glittering monster we've created by trying to foist it as innately "superior" to any other way of life.



Like everything else, it's rotting from the inside out -- yet also re-creating itself -- like the Pheonix of legend. Clinging to the past is stupid and pointless. Things go one direction -- forward, and a new civilization is arising even as the old one collapses.



"Multiculturalism" is also an essentially meaningless word --- like "homophobia." It's just political correctness in reverse.



America has always been made up of many cultures. Including Muslims.



And there have always been so-called real Americans bellowing about the "undesirables." When the first of my ancestors be become Americans came here -- people called them "Bog Irish Bastards" and "Krauts."

[/quote]



No, western culture did not bring those things. Nazism and Communism are responsible for far more death and destruction than civilized western culture like we find in western Europe and North America. Fighting totalitarianism is not wrong and we are certainly not a "glittering monster".



What is collapsing the USA is political correctness in the name of diversity and multiculturalism and turning our back on our founding principles that made us strong.



My ancesters stepped into the same situation. When people came here they became "Americans". Not these days. Now Americans have to bend over for whoever comes here to make sure they aren't offended. Forget that. When you come here, you're becoming American or get the hell out and take your family "honor" with you.

[/quote]



You sound like a Nazi with every post. You live in a diverse, free and secular society....if you want a homogeneous society where you can perpetuate your master race, go find an Island to live on. Your xenophobia, anti-semitism and racism will not be tolerated in America.
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