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Old March 18th, 2012, 10:01 AM   #1
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Cold Fusion 23 years later



Some of you are probably not too young to remember what happened nearly 23 years ago, on March 23, 1989. It was a dramatic announcement of the discovery of the so called Cold Fusion. Some people think that this was the greatest fiasco of the last century; others believe that this discovery was an important step toward future technology of pollution-free nuclear energy. The link to my free online book about Cold Fusion is:



http://ludkow.info/cf/403memoir.html



Please forward this post to those who might be interested. Thank you in advance. It is my third book written after the retirement.



Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia) is also the author of a FREE ON-LINE autobiography, entitled ďDiary of a Former Communist: Thoughts, Feelings, Reality.Ē



http://csam.montclai...life/intro.html



It is a testimony based on a diary kept between 1946 and 2004 (in the USSR, Poland, France and the USA).
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Most interesting Kowalskil/\.



Evidently, all that can be said is that "something is happening."



I hope something pans out. Without something like CF, humanity's energy future looks bleak.
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"[... But to Park] the explanation becomes more important than the observation. Because this particular explanation can not be believed, the observation must also be rejected. Thus, a major flaw in modern science is revealed - a Theory is more important than an Observation. The behavior of nature is not real unless it can be explained, especially using conventional concepts. This flaw in logic is at the heart of the book and provides an explanation for rejection of these and other subjects by many scientists.



"__New discoveries always conflict with some dearly held belief. This conflict when used to reject the claims, prevents new discoveries from being explored and properly explained. This is not to say that all 'strange' ideas are correct or that all have a new and worthwhile explanation. Clearly, some should be rejected as being caused by obvious error, fraud, or simple insanity. The problem comes in deciding how much time and resource should be devoted to a search for an explanation and how the resulting facts should be evaluated. . . . If science is to clean up its act, this defect in the approach scientists use needs to be addressed. A clear and extensive discussion of this general problem can be found in the book "Revolution in Science" by J. Bernard Cohen (1985) or "Forbidden Science" by Richard Milton (1994)."




"Robert Park is not alone in his bias against CF scientists on the basis of authoritarian pronouncements made by DOE investigators. He apparently does not need to hear the CF reports, or perform his own experiments. Fortunately, such an attitude does not prevail among mainstream scientists, but it is common. Aggressive discrimination against CMNS reminds me of something else. Long ago, when I was a communist student in Poland, I believed that genetics was pseudoscience. That was the official party line, supporting Lysenko's teaching. The same was true about cybernetics; it was defined for us as "bourgeois pseudo-science serving American imperialism." Naturally, no one is takes such statements seriousey today, even in Russia. But disagreeing with them could have been dangerous, when Stalin was alive."



Who would have thought that science and scientists are so vulnerable to professional dogma, especially when said dogma is promoted by government, who holds the power of funding, grants and legitimacy in their hands?
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"[... But to Park] the explanation becomes more important than the observation. Because this particular explanation can not be believed, the observation must also be rejected. Thus, a major flaw in modern science is revealed - a Theory is more important than an Observation. The behavior of nature is not real unless it can be explained, especially using conventional concepts. This flaw in logic is at the heart of the book and provides an explanation for rejection of these and other subjects by many scientists.



"__New discoveries always conflict with some dearly held belief. This conflict when used to reject the claims, prevents new discoveries from being explored and properly explained. This is not to say that all 'strange' ideas are correct or that all have a new and worthwhile explanation. Clearly, some should be rejected as being caused by obvious error, fraud, or simple insanity. The problem comes in deciding how much time and resource should be devoted to a search for an explanation and how the resulting facts should be evaluated. . . . If science is to clean up its act, this defect in the approach scientists use needs to be addressed. A clear and extensive discussion of this general problem can be found in the book "Revolution in Science" by J. Bernard Cohen (1985) or "Forbidden Science" by Richard Milton (1994)."




"Robert Park is not alone in his bias against CF scientists on the basis of authoritarian pronouncements made by DOE investigators. He apparently does not need to hear the CF reports, or perform his own experiments. Fortunately, such an attitude does not prevail among mainstream scientists, but it is common. Aggressive discrimination against CMNS reminds me of something else. Long ago, when I was a communist student in Poland, I believed that genetics was pseudoscience. That was the official party line, supporting Lysenko's teaching. The same was true about cybernetics; it was defined for us as "bourgeois pseudo-science serving American imperialism." Naturally, no one is takes such statements seriousey today, even in Russia. But disagreeing with them could have been dangerous, when Stalin was alive."



Who would have thought that science and scientists are so vulnerable to professional dogma, especially when said dogma is promoted by government, who holds the power of funding, grants and legitimacy in their hands?


I'd believe it.
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A new genre of restaurant cuisine...
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has anyone seen the E-cat ?



The Energy Catalyzer (also called E-Cat) is a purported cold fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) heat source[sup][1][/sup][sup][2][/sup] built by inventor Andrea Rossi,[sup][3][/sup][sup][4][/sup] with support from physicist Sergio Focardi.[sup][5][/sup] An Italian patent, which was approved on 6 April 2011, describes the apparatus as a "process and equipment to obtain exothermal reactions, in particular from nickel and hydrogen".[sup][6][/sup] Rossi and Focardi say the device works by infusing heated hydrogen into nickel, transmuting it into copper and producing heat.[sup][7][/sup][sup][8][/sup] An international patent application[sup][9][/sup] has received an unfavorable international preliminary report on patentability because it seemed to "offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories" and to overcome this problem the application should have contained either experimental evidence or a firm theoretical basis in current scientific theories.

The device has been demonstrated to an invited audience several times, and commented on by various academics and others, but has not been independently tested. Mark Gibbs of Forbes commented: "until a verifiably objective analysis is conducted by an independent third party that confirms the results match the claims thereís no real news".[sup][11][/sup]



http://ecatnews.com/



i think its a hoax.
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The Energy Catalyzer (also called E-Cat) is a purported cold fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) heat source[sup][1][/sup][sup][2][/sup] built by inventor Andrea Rossi,[sup][3][/sup][sup][4][/sup] with support from physicist Sergio Focardi.[sup][5][/sup] An Italian patent, which was approved on 6 April 2011, describes the apparatus as a "process and equipment to obtain exothermal reactions, in particular from nickel and hydrogen".[sup][6][/sup] Rossi and Focardi say the device works by infusing heated hydrogen into nickel, transmuting it into copper and producing heat.[sup][7][/sup][sup][8][/sup] An international patent application[sup][9][/sup] has received an unfavorable international preliminary report on patentability because it seemed to "offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories" and to overcome this problem the application should have contained either experimental evidence or a firm theoretical basis in current scientific theories.

The device has been demonstrated to an invited audience several times, and commented on by various academics and others, but has not been independently tested. Mark Gibbs of Forbes commented: "until a verifiably objective analysis is conducted by an independent third party that confirms the results match the claims thereís no real news".[sup][11][/sup]



http://ecatnews.com/



i think its a hoax.


Mark Gibbs of Forbes said it all. I think we would have heard by now if this were the breakthrough.
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has anyone seen the E-cat ?



The Energy Catalyzer (also called E-Cat) is a purported cold fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) heat source[sup][1][/sup][sup][2][/sup] built by inventor Andrea Rossi,[sup][3][/sup][sup][4][/sup] with support from physicist Sergio Focardi.[sup][5][/sup] An Italian patent, which was approved on 6 April 2011, describes the apparatus as a "process and equipment to obtain exothermal reactions, in particular from nickel and hydrogen".[sup][6][/sup] Rossi and Focardi say the device works by infusing heated hydrogen into nickel, transmuting it into copper and producing heat.[sup][7][/sup][sup][8][/sup] An international patent application[sup][9][/sup] has received an unfavorable international preliminary report on patentability because it seemed to "offend against the generally accepted laws of physics and established theories" and to overcome this problem the application should have contained either experimental evidence or a firm theoretical basis in current scientific theories.

The device has been demonstrated to an invited audience several times, and commented on by various academics and others, but has not been independently tested. Mark Gibbs of Forbes commented: "until a verifiably objective analysis is conducted by an independent third party that confirms the results match the claims thereís no real news".[sup][11][/sup]



http://ecatnews.com/



i think its a hoax.


Mark Gibbs of Forbes said it all. I think we would have heard by now if this were the breakthrough.


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Engineers from Europeís largest electronics and electronic company Siemens AG are helping Andrea Rossi in his efforts to develop a steam engine powered by his ecat cold fusion device.



Siemens engineers reportedly visited Rossiís facility in Bologna and demonstrated a turbine that can generate power from steam at temperatures as low as 231 Celsius (484 Fahrenheit). That could make it possible togenerate steam with the ecat and use it to produce electricity or to power ships, trains or industrial equipment. Rossi made this revelation to American blogger and writer Frank Acland of ecat world.com.



Rossi did not whether he has any sort of deal with Siemens or if he had any plans to buy the steam turbine technology. Nor did he say if Siemens has purchased an ecat or if the giant German company is an investor in his Leonardo Corp.



Rossi did tell Acland that he thinks this is a significant development in attempts to employLENR devices to generate electricity. Presently all Rossiís ecat unit can do is heat water and generate small amounts of steam.



Rossi also admitted to Acland that he has had to redesign and rebuild his 1.5 Megawatt ecat module. This device is supposed to generate 1.5 megawatts of heat not electricity This device was demonstrated in October but never shipped to Rossiís customer. Rossi said his customer was a military organization he cannot name. Unverified internet speculation has identified as DARPA an arm of the US military. Rossi also admitted that no work has been done on the other 11 ecat plants customers have ordered.



Rossi once again elaborated on his proposed 10 Kilowatt ecat home heating device. He said it would weigh around 20 pounds and about one foot in length and diameter. Once again said it will be available next year and cost between $600 and $900 US. The devices are supposed to be made at a plant in the US. The devices would only be made in the US but shipped all over the world.



Rossi also stated that he will publish his ďtheoryĒ on which ecat is based next fall. He didnít say where but he also claimed it will take five years to patent ecat because of legal difficulties.



Siemens is a multinational conglomerate that makes everything from steam irons to electric trains. Siemens headquarters are in Munich, Germany, and itís been around in one form or another since 1847. It currently employees 360,000 people in 190 countries and had revenues of $190 billion US (142 billion Euros) in 2011. If Rossi could get onboard with it he would have the resources he needs to complete his work.



From this it sounds like Rossi is making some progress but he hasnít got his technology to work yet. Perhaps it would be better if Rossi would sell his technology to a company like Siemens and let them complete the work.
http://coldfusion3.com/blog/rossi-wo...eam-technology
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