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Old March 26th, 2012, 08:55 AM   #1
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While the fierce debates over social issues continue, things like this slip in under the radar.



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In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens.


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The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)



The spring air in the small, sand-dusted town has a soft haze to it, and clumps of green-gray sagebrush rustle in the breeze. Bluffdale sits in a bowl-shaped valley in the shadow of Utah’s Wasatch Range to the east and the Oquirrh Mountains to the west. It’s the heart of Mormon country, where religious pioneers first arrived more than 160 years ago. They came to escape the rest of the world, to understand the mysterious words sent down from their god as revealed on buried golden plates, and to practice what has become known as “the principle,” marriage to multiple wives.



Today Bluffdale is home to one of the nation’s largest sects of polygamists, the Apostolic United Brethren, with upwards of 9,000 members. The brethren’s complex includes a chapel, a school, a sports field, and an archive. Membership has doubled since 1978—and the number of plural marriages has tripled—so the sect has recently been looking for ways to purchase more land and expand throughout the town.



But new pioneers have quietly begun moving into the area, secretive outsiders who say little and keep to themselves. Like the pious polygamists, they are focused on deciphering cryptic messages that only they have the power to understand. Just off Beef Hollow Road, less than a mile from brethren headquarters, thousands of hard-hatted construction workers in sweat-soaked T-shirts are laying the groundwork for the newcomers’ own temple and archive, a massive complex so large that it necessitated expanding the town’s boundaries. Once built, it will be more than five times the size of the US Capitol.



Rather than Bibles, prophets, and worshippers, this temple will be filled with servers, computer intelligence experts, and armed guards. And instead of listening for words flowing down from heaven, these newcomers will be secretly capturing, storing, and analyzing vast quantities of words and images hurtling through the world’s telecommunications networks. In the little town of Bluffdale, Big Love and Big Brother have become uneasy neighbors.



Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.



But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”



For the NSA, overflowing with tens of billions of dollars in post-9/11 budget awards, the cryptanalysis breakthrough came at a time of explosive growth, in size as well as in power. Established as an arm of the Department of Defense following Pearl Harbor, with the primary purpose of preventing another surprise assault, the NSA suffered a series of humiliations in the post-Cold War years. Caught offguard by an escalating series of terrorist attacks—the first World Trade Center bombing, the blowing up of US embassies in East Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, and finally the devastation of 9/11—some began questioning the agency’s very reason for being. In response, the NSA has quietly been reborn. And while there is little indication that its actual effectiveness has improved—after all, despite numerous pieces of evidence and intelligence-gathering opportunities, it missed the near-disastrous attempted attacks by the underwear bomber on a flight to Detroit in 2009 and by the car bomber in Times Square in 2010—there is no doubt that it has transformed itself into the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.



In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, it’s all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.






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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:07 AM   #2
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There was a good discussion of this a few days ago:



http://onpoint.wbur.org/2012/03/22/nsa-spy-hub



http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...tacenter/all/1
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #3
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There was a good discussion of this a few days ago:



http://onpoint.wbur..../22/nsa-spy-hub



http://www.wired.com...atacenter/all/1


The first link is interesting, and thank you skrekk. The second one is the link to this story.



From the first link:





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Forbes “The story adds confirmation to what the New York Timesrevealed in 2005: that the NSA has engaged in widespread wiretapping of Americans with the consent of firms like AT&T and Verizon. But more interestingly–and more troubling in the eyes of many who value their privacy–it details the Agency’s plans to crack AES encryption, the cryptographic standard certified by the NSA itself in 2009 for military and government use and until now considered uncrackable in any amount of time relevant to mortals.”


And, watch the lies:



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYNXVgYhPOc[/youtube]
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:30 AM   #4
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The second one is the link to this story.


Oops - sorry, I meant to link to the discussion about the article:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...omestic-Spying



There's been a lot of discussion about this on DailyKos lately, including the recent testimony to Congress by the head of the NSA.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...ct-Protections
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:33 AM   #5
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Yep, Jones gets out there sometimes ... and sometimes he takes on stories no one else will touch.



This is the latter.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kslFCUGSR1o[/youtube]
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I would say that's very much the former, not the latter.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #7
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I would say that's very much the former, not the latter.


I'm not so sure about that. What facts does he have wrong?
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I would say that's very much the former, not the latter.


I'm not so sure about that. What facts does he have wrong?


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I would say that's very much the former, not the latter.


I'm not so sure about that. What facts does he have wrong?


??

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I won't take the time to deconstruct his comment, but the video simply strikes me as a classic Alex Jones nutty conspiracy theory. I'm just surprised he didn't mention the trilateral commission and Burning Man in that massive jumble of nonsense.



I loved the part where the secret government is going to "flash your fluorescent lights" to take over your dishwasher and computer. Jones might need to use thicker tinfoil on his hat.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #10
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[quote name='imaginethat' timestamp='1332784407' post='391827']

[quote name='skrekk' timestamp='1332783561' post='391824']

I would say that's very much the former, not the latter.


I'm not so sure about that. What facts does he have wrong?


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I won't take the time to deconstruct his comment, but the video simply strikes me as a classic Alex Jones nutty conspiracy theory. I'm just surprised he didn't mention the trilateral commission and Burning Man in all of that.

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I see. It's plausible that you've been programmed to think like this, to dismiss out of hand the possibility that he's right. You've no need to deconstruct his comment. I asked how are the facts he presented wrong.



I did not dig deep into it, but I gotta say there has been a whole lotta stuff going down, and a lot of it reeks, and the lines Jones draws between them aren't far-fetched, not at all.
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