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Old April 7th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #1
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Some are saying the fact that Zimmerman hasn't been charged will result in "copy-cat" crimes. What do you think?



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Task force hunts killer after shooting spree in Tulsa, Okla.



Updated 6:41 p.m. ET: A city-federal task force has been set up to find the attacker or attackers who shot three people dead and wounded two in a string of early-morning attacks in north Tulsa, police in Oklahoma said Saturday.



Three men and one woman were shot within a mile of each other in north Tulsa at around 1 a.m. on Friday morning, police said. The body of a fifth victim, a man, was discovered outside a nearby funeral home in the predominantly black part of the city after 8 a.m. on Friday. Police said he was likely shot at about the same time as the others.



All the victims were black, prompting the Rev. Warren Blakney Sr., NAACP Tulsa president, to say that someone appeared to be "targeting black people to shoot.



"Im on edge for my people," Blakney said, according to the Tulsa World.



At a Saturday afternoon press conference, Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan said it was too early to know whether the shootings were racially motivated.



"The whole race issue, the hate crime issue, there's a very logical theory that would say that's what it could be, but I'm a police officer, I've got to go by the evidence," Jordan said, adding that no racial slurs had been used by the gunman, Reuters reported.



Jordan had a message for the shooter: "We're coming after you."



Officer Jason Willingham said police were searching for a white man driving a white pickup, which was spotted in the area of three of the shootings. At least two dozen officers are investigating the case, along with the krmg.com reported.



Henderson said people should not let "some crazy, deranged person mess up their weekend," but he added that the community "needs to watch their backs" until the shooter is caught, according to the Tulsa World.



"We have to handle this because there are a number of African-American males who are not going to allow this to happen in their neighborhood," said Blakney, according to The Associated Press. "We're trying to quell the feeling of `let's get someone' and we will make as certain as we can that this isn't pushed under the rug."



Police don't believe the victims knew each other.



"There is no forensic evidence to link at this point," said homicide detective Sgt. Dave Walker. "Timing and location lead us to believe they may be connected."



The FBI is assisting in the investigation as part of a joint city-federal task force, dubbed "Operation Random Shooter," and will determine if any federal laws were broken, said Special Agent Clay Simmonds, FBI spokesman for the state of Oklahoma.



Police identified those killed as Dannaer Fields, 49, Bobby Clark, 54, and William Allen, 31. Fields was found wounded about 1 a.m. Friday, Clarke was found in a street about an hour later, and Allen was discovered in the yard of a funeral home about 8:30 a.m.



Minutes after Fields was found, police found two men with gunshot wounds in another yard two blocks away. They were taken to hospitals in critical condition but expected to survive, police said.




Police Capt. Steve Odom said in his 30 years with the police department, hed never seen so many shootings happen in such a short time.


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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #2
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Not a copycat crime. Just plain old pathological violence, horror and tragedy.
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Old April 9th, 2012, 12:31 PM   #3
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The background to the Tulsa crime spree is related to a "stand your ground law", as the random shootings of blacks were in revenge for the killing of the father of one of the perps......the killer of whom successfully used Oklahoma's "stand your ground law" as a defense even though he's a felon and shouldn't have had a gun.
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it definitely isn't a copy cat crime though. You are rright about the stand your ground relation. That law is the gift that just keeps on giving..........dead bodies.
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Both have already confessed. I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't in exchange for an agreement not to press for a hate crimes charge, which would be very easy to prove in this case. Although it probably wouldn't matter much since both guys will never be out on the street again.
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its got to be race what the hell

is people going nuts like frootloops

has anyone been around in the 1960,s

this is worse that that time.

thAts all i can say
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The background to the Tulsa crime spree is related to a "stand your ground law", as the random shootings of blacks were in revenge for the killing of the father of one of the perps......the killer of whom successfully used Oklahoma's "stand your ground law" as a defense even though he's a felon and shouldn't have had a gun.


Surprise! Criminals don't obey law.
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The background to the Tulsa crime spree is related to a "stand your ground law", as the random shootings of blacks were in revenge for the killing of the father of one of the perps......the killer of whom successfully used Oklahoma's "stand your ground law" as a defense even though he's a felon and shouldn't have had a gun.


Surprise! Criminals don't obey law.


The surprise isn't that he had a gun but that he successfully claimed a defense for the killing using the stand your ground law, even though as a felon he couldn't lawfully possess a gun.



His conviction was for the relatively trivial offense of "pointing a gun".
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The background to the Tulsa crime spree is related to a "stand your ground law", as the random shootings of blacks were in revenge for the killing of the father of one of the perps......the killer of whom successfully used Oklahoma's "stand your ground law" as a defense even though he's a felon and shouldn't have had a gun.


Surprise! Criminals don't obey law.


The surprise isn't that he had a gun but that he successfully claimed a defense for the killing using the stand your ground law, even though as a felon he couldn't lawfully possess a gun.



His conviction was for the relatively trivial offense of "pointing a gun".

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That's not the surprise to which I referred. The surprise is, and it's a sarcastic surprise, that gun prohibitions only keep guns out of the hands of law-abiding people. Criminals are not deterred.



The only sensible "gun control" law would be to add a mandatory +/- 20 years to any crime involving the use of a gun. That might get through to a criminal mind.
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That's not the surprise to which I referred. The surprise is, and it's a sarcastic surprise, that gun prohibitions only keep guns out of the hands of law-abiding people. Criminals are not deterred.






However this logic is never applied to any other laws.



"There's no point in passing a law against robbing banks because bank robbers will ignore it"
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