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Old August 3rd, 2012, 01:21 PM   #1
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?
I take it all gun owners are violent now too. ( or just a slip of the tounge)
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

[/quote]



Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.
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May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?


If it were me, I wouldnít assume something that someone doesnít say. Twisting things to fit your own corner of the world makes you happy though, Iím sure. So go with it if it works for you. The rest of us wonít put words in other peopleís mouths.
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And since you all want to take turns bashing the Clinton administration, you might want to dig into a little project they called the Clipper Chip.
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[quote name='Podium Pentothal' timestamp='1344028916' post='418948']

Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

[/quote]



Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.

[/quote]ThatDemocratic President Bill Clinton had the last surplus that was wiped in no time the so-called conservatives who got us deeper in debt. (conserving the way of life for rich ).
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[quote name='scrjnki' timestamp='1344106019' post='419082']

[quote name='runner51' timestamp='1344103490' post='419075']

[quote name='Podium Pentothal' timestamp='1344028916' post='418948']

Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

[/quote]



Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.

[/quote]ThatDemocratic President Bill Clinton had the last surplus that was wiped in no time the so-called conservatives who got us deeper in debt. (conserving the way of life for rich ).

[/quote]



Good for him. I voted for him. But we weren't talking about surpluses, Mr. Moderate. You made a comment about conservative republican backed voter id laws.



I merely pointed out that the ultimate voter ID law proposal came from a Democratic president, and was soundly denounced by the same people now crying for voter ID laws.

Now you may return to your thoughtful, moderate leaning commentary.
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May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?


If it were me, I wouldnít assume something that someone doesnít say. Twisting things to fit your own corner of the world makes you happy though, Iím sure. So go with it if it works for you. The rest of us wonít put words in other peopleís mouths.


I merely asked permission to presume it. That's more polite, don't you agree?
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You will hear the left in the coming days defend Obamaís lawsuit stating they just want to make the election ďfair for allĒ. They will tell you theyíre not really restricting military voters at all. No, they just want the rules to be applied equally to all people.



Their stated case will hinge on the notion that walking or driving a few blocks to your polling place in Ohio is equivalent to voting at a military base thousands of miles away from the homeland. They will tell us that being stationed aboard a navy vessel at sea is no different than living in a duplex in Arkon, Ohio.



Unfortunately, throngs of wild eyed Obama disciples will fall right in line and support that twisted logic. But on August 15[sup]th[/sup], the case will come before a judge in Ohio, who will undoubtedly throw the case out of court. He should do so with prejudice.



He should also order Obamaís name be removed from the ballot in November for violating common laws as well as common decency.
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[quote name='scrjnki' timestamp='1344106019' post='419082']

[quote name='runner51' timestamp='1344103490' post='419075']

[quote name='Podium Pentothal' timestamp='1344028916' post='418948']

Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

[/quote]



Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.

[/quote]ThatDemocratic President Bill Clinton had the last surplus that was wiped in no time the so-called conservatives who got us deeper in debt. (conserving the way of life for rich ).

[/quote]



Good for him. I voted for him. But we weren't talking about surpluses, Mr. Moderate. You made a comment about conservative republican backed voter id laws.



I merely pointed out that the ultimate voter ID law proposal came from a Democratic president, and was soundly denounced by the same people now crying for voter ID laws.

Now you may return to your thoughtful, moderate leaning commentary.

[/quote]You still DID NOT answer my question, which one is law now I will be waiting for answer.
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Funny how the subject is quickly changed when the fire gets too hot.



I forget, is that liberal tactic number six, or is it liberal tactic number four?
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[quote name='runner51' timestamp='1344108675' post='419089']

[quote name='scrjnki' timestamp='1344106019' post='419082']

[quote name='runner51' timestamp='1344103490' post='419075']

[quote name='Podium Pentothal' timestamp='1344028916' post='418948']

Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

[/quote]



Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.

[/quote]ThatDemocratic President Bill Clinton had the last surplus that was wiped in no time the so-called conservatives who got us deeper in debt. (conserving the way of life for rich ).

[/quote]



Good for him. I voted for him. But we weren't talking about surpluses, Mr. Moderate. You made a comment about conservative republican backed voter id laws.



I merely pointed out that the ultimate voter ID law proposal came from a Democratic president, and was soundly denounced by the same people now crying for voter ID laws.

Now you may return to your thoughtful, moderate leaning commentary.

[/quote]You still DID NOT answer my question, which one is law now I will be waiting for answer.

[/quote]



Are you stupid? It makes no difference to the point I was making, that Democratic President Bill Clinton did not get his proposed National ID law. The point I was making is that it was he, a Democrat, who proposed it. It was in response to your bigoted partisan statement that "conservative republican backed voter id laws.." were a one-party affair. They are not. They certainly were not in the 1990's, when it was conservative Republicans who were, for the most part, against them (probably only because Clinton proposed them).



Suppose you made a statement and I replied: "So how many craters are there on the moon, I will await your reply." That would be stupid and irrelevant. Don't be stupid.



I can hardly imagine what reply you will await next.
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Clinton wasn't perfect and that Nationall ID plan wouldn't have stopped illegals from being here. Both Clintons had that one wrong. That doesn't excuse the republicans from being wrong on this one though.
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I donít think this outrageous ploy is at all what it seems on the surface. Yes, it had the desired initial effect of turning the stomach of every red blooded American. But I fear there is a bigger gambit at play, one that comes right out of the playbook of Saul Alinsky.



If you step back and think about the orchestrated moves by Valerie Jarrett, Anita Dunne and David Axelrod over the past 12 months or so the big picture starts to fall into place. There was the manufactured ďRepublicans Hate WomenĒ campaign cooked up and directed right from the White House. We also witnessed the handiwork of the smear merchants with attacks on Ann Romney for ďnever working a day in her lifeĒ and trotting out Harry Reid to claim Romney paid no taxes in the past 10 years.



In fact, there are few groups or ďtypesĒ of people that have been spared attacks from the Chicago hit squad. The Catholic Church, military men and women, Chick-Fil-A, white men, law enforcement, border patrol, Southern States, educators, poll supervisors, Romney campaign donors, hunters, Jews and business owners are just a few that have been targeted for attack. In short, pretty much anyone that espouses traditional American values have been singled out, one by one, in the concerted effort to divide and conquer.



The Grand Scheme is becoming more clear by the day, generate unrest. By ginning up manufactured outrage at every turn Team Obama accomplishes two important goals. One, divert attention from the miserable track record of the past four years. And two, more importantly, to fabricate conflict among the masses.



Remember, four years ago, Mr. Obama rode into Washington on that magic carpet of hopes and dreams. Now heís at the wheel of a garbage truck. Because now he understands that a lot of the people who swooned over him then, arenít swooning so much today. So he has to energize them. And what better way than sowing seeds of resentment?



With any luck, he'll have cars burning in the streets and citizens shooting one other before summer is over.
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Funny how the subject is quickly changed when the fire gets too hot.



I forget, is that liberal tactic number six, or is it liberal tactic number four?
Hey Mister that never twist the facts you better look at some of your recent posts and see who twist the facts or do you want me to give facts and see who has them twisted. Let me know okay.
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Old August 6th, 2012, 10:22 AM   #19
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
You forgot to mention the conservative republican backed voter id laws in many states. (constitutional or unconstitutional ?) BTW I thought he was a socialist not a facsit and I am still waiting to read about all the mass graves from his hitler-like 1st term. Or is that going to be in the 2nd term also?


May I presume then that like Fayt, you also opposed the conservative Republican Clinton Administration's proposed National ID card, to be used as voter and SSA card ID, and required of all citizens?

[/quote]Tell me which one is law now? Please

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Could not get it passed. Apparently not enough support for thatDemocratic President Bill Clinton's proposal for a National ID.

[/quote]ThatDemocratic President Bill Clinton had the last surplus that was wiped in no time the so-called conservatives who got us deeper in debt. (conserving the way of life for rich ).

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Good for him. I voted for him. But we weren't talking about surpluses, Mr. Moderate. You made a comment about conservative republican backed voter id laws.



I merely pointed out that the ultimate voter ID law proposal came from a Democratic president, and was soundly denounced by the same people now crying for voter ID laws.

Now you may return to your thoughtful, moderate leaning commentary.

[/quote]You still DID NOT answer my question, which one is law now I will be waiting for answer.

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Are you stupid? It makes no difference to the point I was making, that Democratic President Bill Clinton did not get his proposed National ID law. The point I was making is that it was he, a Democrat, who proposed it. It was in response to your bigoted partisan statement that "conservative republican backed voter id laws.." were a one-party affair. They are not. They certainly were not in the 1990's, when it was conservative Republicans who were, for the most part, against them (probably only because Clinton proposed them).



Suppose you made a statement and I replied: "So how many craters are there on the moon, I will await your reply." That would be stupid and irrelevant. Don't be stupid.



I can hardly imagine what reply you will await next.

[/quote]This is my response: What was no good years ago is good today? http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/gr...02/Milberg.pdf

http://www.citizens4freedom.com/Arti...THE-BEAST.aspx
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Iím not a violent man. I donít even own a gun. But I fear all thatís about to change.



Over the past few years Iíve read the occasional story from some blog kook or another who claims Obamaís grand scheme it to implement all out fascism in this country during his second term. Iíve always written them off as ultra-fringe rants by someone who sees shadows that arenít really there. Today those rants donít seem all that kooky at all.



Yes, Iíve seen all the fascist writings on the wall. The takeover of GM and handing it over to the unions in clear violation of the law. The constant maneuverings to silence the opposition. Unending executive orders by fiat. The Fed printing boatloads of money to cause inflation and unrest. All the hallmarks are there. Itís just that Iíve always held out hope that it really wasnít as bad as it appears, that common sense would win out given enough time. But maybe I was just fooling myself, afraid to finally recognize the truth that lies before our very eyes.



All doubt ended today. When Obamaís re-election team sued the State of Ohio over its voting policy of allowing military members extended time to vote, that was the final clincher. That common sense practice is as old as the Civil War. It is easily recognized by all as fair to those often stationed far way overseas. Such a blatant, overt attempt to disenfranchise the very people who protect our way of life is at a minimum tyranny, and at worst a treasonous action.
Is this the facist Obama takeover you were talking about of GM and Chrysler. ( TWISTED FACT) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLot2TdC20
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