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Old August 7th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #1
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Old August 7th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #2
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I'll probably "waste" another one of my votes....
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Old August 8th, 2012, 01:57 AM   #3
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Id love to vote for Gary Johnson, but I wont.



If I thought he had a ghost of a chance Id probably give some serious thought to changing my mind. But were in a no win situation with the two party system. Its like the Roman gladiator given the choice between two doors. Hes told behind one door is a lion, which he gets to fight with only a sword. Behind the other door is another gladiator, which he gets to fight with only a sword. If hes lucky and picks the right door, hell only have to fight the other gladiator.



There were times, however, when the powers that be introduced a third door into the equation for added entertainment. Behind the third door was freedom.
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Does the Green Party or Nazi Party have a presidential candidate this year?
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #5
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Id love to vote for Gary Johnson, but I wont.



If I thought he had a ghost of a chance Id probably give some serious thought to changing my mind. But were in a no win situation with the two party system. Its like the Roman gladiator given the choice between two doors. Hes told behind one door is a lion, which he gets to fight with only a sword. Behind the other door is another gladiator, which he gets to fight with only a sword. If hes lucky and picks the right door, hell only have to fight the other gladiator.



There were times, however, when the powers that be introduced a third door into the equation for added entertainment. Behind the third door was freedom.


I do not throw away my votes. I will not be apart of the mindless zombies who actually believe this is a two party system. Every person could make a change if they actually stood for what they believe in. I believe in something, and I don't care if my vote does not go to the winner. My vote goes to the person who deserves the office. For that, I will never waste my vote, or ever vote for the "lesser of two evils"
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The Green Party has nominated a woman.



I will be voting for Gary Johnson, no doubt.



It may be a wasted vote, but at least my conscience will be clear that I did NOT vote for a fascist domestic enemy of the US Constitution.
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Id love to vote for Gary Johnson, but I wont.



If I thought he had a ghost of a chance Id probably give some serious thought to changing my mind. But were in a no win situation with the two party system. Its like the Roman gladiator given the choice between two doors. Hes told behind one door is a lion, which he gets to fight with only a sword. Behind the other door is another gladiator, which he gets to fight with only a sword. If hes lucky and picks the right door, hell only have to fight the other gladiator.



There were times, however, when the powers that be introduced a third door into the equation for added entertainment. Behind the third door was freedom.


Exactly. Gary Johnson is the only legit choice for people looking for greener pastures, and Ron Paul supporters. Ya know, Republicans say that a vote for RP or GJ is a vote for obama, but that's kinda ridiuclous for them to say IMO. I mean, they claimed that RP didn't have enough supporters, that's why he did so miserably in the primaries. So if that's true, what in the world makes them think that if Ron Paul supporters would jump on the Mittens bandwagon, that it would make a difference?



I say vote your conscience.



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Id love to vote for Gary Johnson, but I wont.



If I thought he had a ghost of a chance Id probably give some serious thought to changing my mind. But were in a no win situation with the two party system. Its like the Roman gladiator given the choice between two doors. Hes told behind one door is a lion, which he gets to fight with only a sword. Behind the other door is another gladiator, which he gets to fight with only a sword. If hes lucky and picks the right door, hell only have to fight the other gladiator.



There were times, however, when the powers that be introduced a third door into the equation for added entertainment. Behind the third door was freedom.


Exactly. Gary Johnson is the only legit choice for people looking for greener pastures, and Ron Paul supporters. Ya know, Republicans say that a vote for RP or GJ is a vote for obama, but that's kinda ridiuclous for them to say IMO. I mean, they claimed that RP didn't have enough supporters, that's why he did so miserably in the primaries. So if that's true, what in the world makes them think that if Ron Paul supporters would jump on the Mittens bandwagon, that it would make a difference?



I say vote your conscience.



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Yep.



I think you've shamed me into "wasting" yet another one of my votes....



The fact that Ron Paul has the qualifications for a 15-minute speech at the R convention, yet has not been invited to speak, speaks volumes. The bastards are still afraid of him.



They've got good reason to be afraid. If enough Rs - and everyone else - understood his message about the Fed and how both parties bow down to it, well hell, things might change. And if they did, those currently running the show would suffer a setback, conservatively speaking.
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Heres one of the main reasons why I hate the two party system so much:



Say you have a voter pool of 100 voters and you know its going to be a close election. It is quite possible the vote will be split right down the middle, 50/50. And based upon historical data you also know that pool breaks down to:



Republican 45

Democrat 45

Independent 10



The campaign managers know just how important that group of 10 really is when it comes down to the vote counting. They know that in theory, that independent group could be split down the middle too, with 5 voting each way. But if you can get just one of those Obama voters to change their mind, it actually counts as two votes.



In an even split 50 Obama / 50 Romney

One Obama voter changes their mind 49 Obama / 51 Romney



That one independent voter who changed their mind gave Romney a two point victory. Since that single persons vote carries twice the power of my vote the campaign managers urge their candidate to move towards the middle during an election year. So we get lots of campaign promises targeted towards a small percentage of the population.



Now it could be argued that moving towards the center is a good thing for the country. Id agree, in theory. The problem is that all those campaign promises go out the window once the election is over. Then its back to business as usual.



And I really, really dislike business as usual.
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I hate our 2 party system because it is intellectually and morally bankrupt.



Things might have been different years ago, but for the last few decades under our system, the candidates offered by both parties are equally owned by corporate interests. Both candidates support actions that work against constitutional governance.
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The same purse strings control both parties. They give the people hope by giving us the option of choosing between 2 parties. Then they encourage debate and discussion ONLY within the 2 party system. We keep playing ping pong between the 2 parties, and regardless of which one is in power, the agenda reamains the same. If by the people voting it could really change anything, it would be illegal.



Now I'm a conservative because I beleive in small government, the Constituiton, and I want people to be able to keep more of their hard earned money. But that in no way makes me beholden to voting for Republicans. The Constituition is the enemy of big government and progressives.
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