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Old August 17th, 2012, 01:54 PM   #1
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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.

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Doing your job doesn't make you a hero. Going beyond the necessities of what need to be done in order to protect the innocent is true heroism.
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Doing your job doesn't make you a hero. Going beyond the necessities of what need to be done in order to protect the innocent is true heroism.
So security guards, policemen, and firemen are never heroic because they are just doing their jobs when they protect lives?
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Doing your job doesn't make you a hero. Going beyond the necessities of what need to be done in order to protect the innocent is true heroism.
So security guards, policemen, and firemen are never heroic because they are just doing their jobs when they protect lives?
Well, yes. Unless they truly went out of their way past the job being done to get the bad guy, then they're just good people doing their job very well.
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Doing your job doesn't make you a hero. Going beyond the necessities of what need to be done in order to protect the innocent is true heroism.
So security guards, policemen, and firemen are never heroic because they are just doing their jobs when they protect lives?
Well, yes. Unless they truly went out of their way past the job being done to get the bad guy, then they're just good people doing their job very well.

[/quote]Actually, I think most of THEM would agree with you, but I don't think it is out of line for us to consider that even taking one of those types of jobs in the first place is rather heroic, and therefore acting in the job's capacities is also heroic.
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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.



Notice: This would-be mass shooter was stopped because he didn't pick a gun-free zone as his killing field. The Va. Tech shooter, on the other hand, picked a killing field in which even campus security officers were disarmed.



The guard acted heroically.
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Doing your job doesn't make you a hero. Going beyond the necessities of what need to be done in order to protect the innocent is true heroism.
So security guards, policemen, and firemen are never heroic because they are just doing their jobs when they protect lives?
Well, yes. Unless they truly went out of their way past the job being done to get the bad guy, then they're just good people doing their job very well.

[/quote]Actually, I think most of THEM would agree with you, but I don't think it is out of line for us to consider that even taking one of those types of jobs in the first place is rather heroic, and therefore acting in the job's capacities is also heroic.

[/quote]I know they'd agree with me. No, I'm going to go fight in the military because I have the skills to save lives and bring peace. I went into politics not because I want to, but because I believe I am one the most intelligent people today and I'm going to use this to fix governments and stop wars. What I want to be is a detective, or a businessman; but I chose neither one of these careers because I have the capability to help the world in a far larger way than these careers could. Those people chose those jobs because they wanted to, whether to help people or because it was their dream. Somebody who does something JUST because it helps other is somewhat a resemblance of hero. I'm not even a hero, because I haven't even done anything worth notice..........yet.
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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.



Notice: This would-be mass shooter was stopped because he didn't pick a gun-free zone as his killing field. The Va. Tech shooter, on the other hand, picked a killing field in which even campus security officers were disarmed.



The guard acted heroically.
He was a good man doing his job. What would you have done? Ly down and cry about your wound, any decent person would have stopped that man. A hero would have been a normal guy running in and stopping this from happening, or if the guard had been shot so badly that he needed immediate medical treatment and fighting would completely put himself and others at risk of death.
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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.



Notice: This would-be mass shooter was stopped because he didn't pick a gun-free zone as his killing field. The Va. Tech shooter, on the other hand, picked a killing field in which even campus security officers were disarmed.



The guard acted heroically.
He was a good man doing his job. What would you have done? Ly down and cry about your wound, any decent person would have stopped that man. A hero would have been a normal guy running in and stopping this from happening, or if the guard had been shot so badly that he needed immediate medical treatment and fighting would completely put himself and others at risk of death.

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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz23qJweos5


Notice: This would-be mass shooter was stopped because he didn't pick a gun-free zone as his killing field. The Va. Tech shooter, on the other hand, picked a killing field in which even campus security officers were disarmed.



The guard acted heroically.


...but the guard wrestled him to the ground, he didn't shoot him....did the guard have a gun?



Security detail is shitty, it's lousy pay, and typically these guys are referred to as "rent-a-cops".....so IMHO, he went above and beyond the call of duty wrestling this guy to the ground, especially if he was not armed.
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A security guard at the Family Research Council's headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization's Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group's policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

The security guard here is a hero, as far as Im concerned, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. "He did his job. The person never made it past the front.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz23qJweos5


Notice: This would-be mass shooter was stopped because he didn't pick a gun-free zone as his killing field. The Va. Tech shooter, on the other hand, picked a killing field in which even campus security officers were disarmed.



The guard acted heroically.


...but the guard wrestled him to the ground, he didn't shoot him....did the guard have a gun?



Security detail is shitty, it's lousy pay, and typically these guys are referred to as "rent-a-cops".....so IMHO, he went above and beyond the call of duty wrestling this guy to the ground, especially if he was not armed.

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Point taken ... both of them.
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There's a difference between arrogance and stating a fact.
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[quote name='locke23' timestamp='1345242611' post='422089'] I believe I am one the most intelligent people today
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There's a difference between arrogance and stating a fact.

[/quote]Not much difference in this case, since the fact that you believe it IS arrogance.
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[quote name='locke23' timestamp='1345242611' post='422089'] I believe I am one the most intelligent people today
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There's a difference between arrogance and stating a fact.

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Intelligence tends to be a poor predictor of success.
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Yeah, have your fun spending the rest of your life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website while I'll be off doing good for the world.
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Yeah, have your fun spending the rest of your life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website while I'll be off doing good for the world.


Yes, I lood forward to reading about your accomplishments, whoever you are who won't even reveal his(?) age.



Won't you feel SO much better about yourself knowing that you are off doing good for the world while others are having their fun spending the rest of their life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website? Much better, I'm positive.



You have diagnosable mental illness, Locke. It's OK as far as I'm concerned as long as you are OK with my pointing it out. I've never met a person like you. I've only read about people with an indomitable ego that insists that its definition of good must be "the" definition of good.



The world has seen a pantheon of rulers who arrogantly believed in their omnipotence.



So, all I'm saying to you is to redirect your amply displayed arrogance. To be sure, arrogance is a deep well from which to draw, but it has a limit.



I wish you well in your endeavor to make the world a better place.
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Yeah, have your fun spending the rest of your life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website while I'll be off doing good for the world.


Yes, I lood forward to reading about your accomplishments, whoever you are who won't even reveal his(?) age.



Won't you feel SO much better about yourself knowing that you are off doing good for the world while others are having their fun spending the rest of their life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website? Much better, I'm positive.



You have diagnosable mental illness, Locke. It's OK as far as I'm concerned as long as you are OK with my pointing it out. I've never met a person like you. I've only read about people with an indomitable ego that insists that its definition of good must be "the" definition of good.



The world has seen a pantheon of rulers who arrogantly believed in their omnipotence.



So, all I'm saying to you is to redirect your amply displayed arrogance. To be sure, arrogance is a deep well from which to draw, but it has a limit.



I wish you well in your endeavor to make the world a better place.
I have no mental illness, and I if I wasn't going to try to make the world a better place and/or wasn't smart enough to do so then I wouldn't say so. I won't reveal my age because it amuses me to see people try and fail to figure it out. Who are you to say that I wish to rule?!? If anything I wish not to be running things, in my idea of a better world the seat of power or even any seat of power belonging to me is nowhere near an absolute! I'm not okay with someone "pointing out" something not true. My definition of good is the best of what I've seen or read of so far, should that change then I'll be happy to oblige.
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Yeah, have your fun spending the rest of your life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website while I'll be off doing good for the world.


Seriously. My sister did her masters thesis on the phenomenon of under achievers. Beyond a certain level, (slightly above average) intelligence has little to nothing to do with predicting future success.



Besides that, IT is correct. In the common vernacular, you are nuts.
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Yeah, have your fun spending the rest of your life sitting at a desk and spitting crap on a website while I'll be off doing good for the world.


Seriously. My sister did her masters thesis on the phenomenon of under achievers. Beyond a certain level, (slightly above average) intelligence has little to nothing to do with predicting future success.



Besides that, IT is correct. In the common vernacular, you are nuts.
Am I? So having your life goal being to fix the problems of the world makes me nuts? Wow, so according to you Martin Luther King Jr was insane, and so was George Washington, and Mohandus Karamchand Gandhi too. Those people and all the others who spent their entire lives in the campaign to change the world for the better, were nuts?
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