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Old October 23rd, 2012, 01:39 AM   #1
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I watched most of the debate and it was painful. For some reason I can’t explain, I expected two grown adults to sit down at a table and hash out important issues of the day in a somewhat constructive manner. What’s wrong with me? I should have known better.



LIES – My guess is Obama lied about 85% of the time, Romney about 40%. Obama is a very good liar.



MANNERISMS – It’s hard to pay attention to what is being said when two buffoons are acting out a play on stage. Obama’s attack mode expression while Romney was speaking reminded me of a spoiled bully who didn’t get spanked enough as a kid. I’m surprised Bob Schieffer didn’t get up and walk around the table and slap Obama right in the chops. Bad little kids need to be punished like the brats they are.



Romney’s plastic smile is enough to crack a television screen. You’d think his handlers would have fixed that by now after 635 Republican and 2 Presidential debates. And every time he’d swallow and lick his lips he looked like a lizard sitting on a rock. Was there a fly buzzing around the stage or something?



TRICKS – Who’s running those cameras? Every time they’d show a split screen image the camera that was focused on Romney would shake ever so slightly. I didn’t pick it up at first but it became more obvious once I turned the sound off on the TV. It was almost imperceptible, but it was there.



I started laughing and my wife asked me what was so funny. When I pointed out the camera shake she laughed too. She never even noticed before I pointed it out. It was a subtle, dirty little trick. But it was a trick designed to make Romney appear unsteady.



Go back and check the tape, you’ll see it too. It makes me wonder if you play the tape in slow motion if you’ll also discover subliminal messages inserted every 20 seconds? Not much would surprise me when you have such a finely tuned propaganda machine rolling in high gear.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 02:58 AM   #2
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May I see a list of the "Obama lies"?
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 05:01 AM   #3
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Yes, let's see those lies. I did see Romnesia in action for sure. He twinned the president on alomst every point. And again changed his stance on some things again. Please tell me how Syria is Iran's route to the sea. And what about that response from the President when Romney made that statement about how our Navy has less ships than it did in 1917? Ha! The President said "we also have less horses and less bayonets than we did then as well". LOL!
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May I see a list of the "Obama lies"?


Let's see how this works out.



The debate was 90 minutes long, Obama spoke for roughly 45 min. Since he lied 8O% of the time that means I'd have to go through about a half hour of his babbling line by line for you.



Would you really sit through a few thousand lines of text?
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And what about that response from the President when Romney made that statement about how our Navy has less ships than it did in 1917? Ha! The President said "we also have less horses and less bayonets than we did then as well". LOL!


It was a good line from the Babbler In Chief.



But if I was Romney, I would have hammered the dog shit out of him for it. Something like . . .



“Well there ya go. That’s your problem right there. Your failure to tell the difference between Naval war ships as bayonets pretty much summarizes your many foreign policy fiascos. “





And I quote, "HA".
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Except that we have the most advanced kick ass military in the world right now. His point about us not having enough ships is just ridiculous.
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Except that we have the most advanced kick ass military in the world right now. His point about us not having enough ships is just ridiculous.


It's completely ridiculous. We have 18 Ohio-class subs, 14 with 24 Trident II missiles which can carry 12 independently targeted thermonuclear warheads - which can be battlefield retargeted - 7,000 miles with first-strike accuracy. Reliability? 135 straight successful launches. The remaining four subs carry 154 Tomahawk missiles each.



Aircraft carriers: Ten Nimitz-class carriers, four-and-a-half acres of US territory each, the largest warships every built. Sometimes a graphic speaks better than words:





America has nearly twice as many aircraft carriers - 20 - as the rest of humanity combined - 12 - and America's aircraft carriers are substantially larger than almost all the other's aircraft carriers. The Navy likes to call the big Nimitz class carriers "4.5 acres of sovereign and mobile American territory" -- and all twenty American carriers of all classes add up to nearly 70 acres of deck space. Deckspace is probably a good measure of combat power. The rest of the world's carriers have about 25 acres of deck space, approximately one third that of America's [until 2011, this number was only 15 acres, but new Chinese and Italian vessels upped the total appreciably]. --- http://www.globalsec...ld/carriers.htm



[youtube]http://youtu.be/KG7oNCsBZ-Y[/youtube]



Damned paranoid statement by Romney, designed to stir fear and keep the MIC well-fed.



If there's anything to fear because our Navy is not up to the job, then there is nothing that can be done to erase that fear.
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I'm shocked they didn't bring up Fast and Furious...Guess that's all forgotten now, very unfortunate.
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Except that we have the most advanced kick ass military in the world right now. His point about us not having enough ships is just ridiculous.


It's completely ridiculous. We have 18 Ohio-class subs, 14 with 24 Trident II missiles which can carry 12 independently targeted thermonuclear warheads - which can be battlefield retargeted - 7,000 miles with first-strike accuracy. Reliability? 135 straight successful launches. The remaining four subs carry 154 Tomahawk missiles each.



Aircraft carriers: Ten Nimitz-class carriers, four-and-a-half acres of US territory each, the largest warships every built. Sometimes a graphic speaks better than words:





America has nearly twice as many aircraft carriers - 20 - as the rest of humanity combined - 12 - and America's aircraft carriers are substantially larger than almost all the other's aircraft carriers. The Navy likes to call the big Nimitz class carriers "4.5 acres of sovereign and mobile American territory" -- and all twenty American carriers of all classes add up to nearly 70 acres of deck space. Deckspace is probably a good measure of combat power. The rest of the world's carriers have about 25 acres of deck space, approximately one third that of America's [until 2011, this number was only 15 acres, but new Chinese and Italian vessels upped the total appreciably]. --- http://www.globalsec...ld/carriers.htm



Damned paranoid statement by Romney, designed to stir fear and keep the MIC well-fed.



If there's anything to fear because our Navy is not up to the job, then there is nothing that can be done to erase that fear.


I suppose if one is lacking proper information and drinking DNC kool-aid they would not be aware that the Navy's own force structure plan is 320-321 ships which Romney referred to.



Now Obama would like you to laugh at his arrogant condescending quip to Romney and forget the FACTS; but the facts are on Romney's side as usual.



And as usual, the Republican Romney bashers on the internet are far better qualified to determine force structure than our own Navy correct?



The paranoia is not coming from Romney, but from a desperate Obama campaign willing to lie and distort the reality and facts for purely political purposes and attack Mitt because they cannot defend the massive failure that defines this President.



I find it amusing that the most inexperienced President elected in modern history is now an expert on miliatry affiars. I guess that on-the-job-training O'biden talked about in his campaign has suddenly paid off?



As for the debate, it was rather boring and as Foreign policy debates go the advantage always goes to the person IN the job versus the person trying to GET the job because he has ALL the information regarding policy at his disposal.



But the irony that defines Obama is the argument that Mitt doesn't have the necessary experience when Obama had ZERO coming into the Presidency as evidenced by how massively his policies and programs have failed.
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Romney's real trouble is that he holds just about all positions that can be held on any given subject depending on when you ask him. Romnesia, if you will. To pretend as if our Navy is being neglected when we outspend the next ten nations combined on military spending is just a fear mongering talking point meant to stir his base.
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