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Old December 17th, 2012, 08:41 PM   #1
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On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:

"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.

"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.

"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:

Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed. And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need!

"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!

"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"


I cry every time I read this.....he has hit the nail on the head with his speech.
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Funny how liberals dont want to hear this..**


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We started the Death Spiral when we started killing childern before they were born.* I wrote a paper in college on this subject in 1974.** I spoke that this would lead to the devaluation of life.**


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Look at the demographics of murder


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African Americans are more likely to be murdered and commit murder..**** almost 50% of every abortion is african american childern..* they are only 12% of the population.. almost 50% of all murderers and murdered are african American victims and killers.


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Next Caucasions are the next,*** In aboriton and committing murder


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Next Hispanic/native american


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Next Asian.


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The % is almost exactly that of the abortion rate.
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Allowing Christian prayer in schools will offend the Muslims. *We certainly can't have that!
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pensacola_niceman" data-cid="446266" data-time="1355833385">Allowing Christian prayer in schools will offend the Muslims. *We certainly can't have that!</blockquote>


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On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:





"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.





"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.





"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.





"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:





Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed. And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need!


"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!





"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"








I cry every time I read this.....he has hit the nail on the head with his speech.














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And yet, praying the psychopathology and antisocial behavior away, so to speak, for the killers of Columbine and this latest tragedy will likely be as effective as...well...praying the gay away has been for homosexuals.


People who commit such atrocities or who might commit such atrocities need professional psychiatric help, something which a religious belief system, no matter how well-intentioned, is ill-equipped to deliver.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="baloney_detector" data-cid="446271" data-time="1355838818"><blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="azchurchmouse" data-cid="446231" data-time="1355809287">



On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:





"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.





"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.





"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.





"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:





Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed. And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need!


"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!





"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"








I cry every time I read this.....he has hit the nail on the head with his speech.














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And yet, praying the psychopathology and antisocial behavior away, so to speak, for the killers of Columbine and this latest tragedy will likely be as effective as...well...praying the gay away has been for homosexuals.


People who commit such atrocities or who might commit such atrocities need professional psychiatric help, something which a religious belief system, no matter how well-intentioned, is ill-equipped to deliver.</blockquote>


The man who carried this out was evil. He planned it, destroyed his computer enough so that they can't get any information out of it. He broke into the school forcing his way in. He killed methodically....and then when he heard the sirens took the easy way out and killed himself.


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He was evil.....evil came upon those children.....evil killed the teachers.....I am sick of people saying, making excuses.....well he had a bad childhood, he was mental, he was bullied. Lets put the entire blame on this monster.*


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Jesus will fill any hole anyone has. He is the only answer. We are a country that has turned its back from God. And stuff like this will become a commonplace. And people like you, who hate people with faith...will justify and blame others for what evil people do. Its what you do. Nothing like this happened in any other time of our history....why now?*


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I feel sorry for people like you that search their whole lives for meaning...and never fill that void.*
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You can pray in school any time you like. And abortions only became legal in the early 70's, however they were being done for a very long time before that. Which often resulted in ending the pregnancy , but the woman's life as well. These acts of violence have zero to do with any BS about not allowing God in school or that abortions are legal. To suggest otherwise is just more nonsense from a group of Americans who clearly have zero understanding of our Constitution, our laws and what our founders intended for this nation. Why don't you go and live in another country that forces you to worship what it feels is the only true religion and abide by it's doctrines completely and then let me know what you think about that. This comes down to a culture of violence and a lack of parental responsibility or a lack of societal responsibility toward the mentally ill. And poverty. This is a complex issue and no solutions will be easy. *
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="azchurchmouse" data-cid="446231" data-time="1355809287">




On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:







"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.







"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.







"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.







"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:







Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed. And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need!



"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!







"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"











I cry every time I read this.....he has hit the nail on the head with his speech.



















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</blockquote>





And yet, praying the psychopathology and antisocial behavior away, so to speak, for the killers of Columbine and this latest tragedy will likely be as effective as...well...praying the gay away has been for homosexuals.





People who commit such atrocities or who might commit such atrocities need professional psychiatric help, something which a religious belief system, no matter how well-intentioned, is ill-equipped to deliver.</blockquote>

The man who carried this out was evil. He planned it, destroyed his computer enough so that they can't get any information out of it. He broke into the school forcing his way in. He killed methodically....and then when he heard the sirens took the easy way out and killed himself.





He was evil.....evil came upon those children.....evil killed the teachers.....I am sick of people saying, making excuses.....well he had a bad childhood, he was mental, he was bullied. Lets put the entire blame on this monster.





Jesus will fill any hole anyone has. He is the only answer. We are a country that has turned its back from God. And stuff like this will become a commonplace. And people like you, who hate people with faith...will justify and blame others for what evil people do. Its what you do. Nothing like this happened in any other time of our history....why now?





I feel sorry for people like you that search their whole lives for meaning...and never fill that void. </blockquote>


So then, when you have a medical condition such as, for example, a broken arm, who do you go to for aid, your priest, or your doctor?


After all, as you have stated, "Jesus will fill any hole anyone has. He is the only answer."


So which is it? If you broke your arm, would you visit your priest for aid for your broken arm, or would you see your doctor for aid for your broken arm?


If you say "your doctor," and based on what you are implying here, then you are a hypocrite.
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="azchurchmouse" data-cid="446231" data-time="1355809287">




On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful. They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:







"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.







"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.







"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.







"I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:







Your laws ignore our deepest needs, Your words are empty air. You've stripped away our heritage, You've outlawed simple prayer. Now gunshots fill our classrooms, And precious children die. You seek for answers everywhere, And ask the question "Why?" You regulate restrictive laws, Through legislative creed. And yet you fail to understand, That God is what we need!



"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs - politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. "Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!







"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes-He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA - I give to you a sincere challenge. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"











I cry every time I read this.....he has hit the nail on the head with his speech.



















https://www.facebook.com/shares/view?id=867560879531'>https://www.facebook.com/shares/view?id=867560879531</a>'>7</a>
</blockquote>





And yet, praying the psychopathology and antisocial behavior away, so to speak, for the killers of Columbine and this latest tragedy will likely be as effective as...well...praying the gay away has been for homosexuals.





People who commit such atrocities or who might commit such atrocities need professional psychiatric help, something which a religious belief system, no matter how well-intentioned, is ill-equipped to deliver.</blockquote>

The man who carried this out was evil. He planned it, destroyed his computer enough so that they can't get any information out of it. He broke into the school forcing his way in. He killed methodically....and then when he heard the sirens took the easy way out and killed himself.





He was evil.....evil came upon those children.....evil killed the teachers.....I am sick of people saying, making excuses.....well he had a bad childhood, he was mental, he was bullied. Lets put the entire blame on this monster.





Jesus will fill any hole anyone has. He is the only answer. We are a country that has turned its back from God. And stuff like this will become a commonplace. And people like you, who hate people with faith...will justify and blame others for what evil people do. Its what you do. Nothing like this happened in any other time of our history....why now?





I feel sorry for people like you that search their whole lives for meaning...and never fill that void. </blockquote>


Oh my belief system is really quite simple:


Do onto others as you would like others to do onto you.


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Lighthouses are more useful than churches. (To borrow from Ben Franklin.)


So, while I think religion in general might help some people get through their lives, which I honestly think is a beneficial aspect of religion to human society, I simply don't personally rely on literature that was written by a bunch of stone- or iron-age goat herders.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="waitingtables" data-cid="446283" data-time="1355842554">You can pray in school any time you like. And abortions only became legal in the early 70's, however they were being done for a very long time before that. Which often resulted in ending the pregnancy , but the woman's life as well. These acts of violence have zero to do with any BS about not allowing God in school or that abortions are legal. To suggest otherwise is just more nonsense from a group of Americans who clearly have zero understanding of our Constitution, our laws and what our founders intended for this nation. Why don't you go and live in another country that forces you to worship what it feels is the only true religion and abide by it's doctrines completely and then let me know what you think about that. This comes down to a culture of violence and a lack of parental responsibility or a lack of societal responsibility toward the mentally ill. And poverty. This is a complex issue and no solutions will be easy. *</blockquote>


You cant give a commencement speech and mention God. You can silently pray.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqzfIitfHjU


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The crowd was outraged. This was her time to shine...her free speech moment. But oh no...you mention God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit and the humanists crap their pants...they are like vampires who see light.


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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75177D20110602


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http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_6760212


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If those women who died wanted to take the chance then they had that right. You can't legalize something because a few might do it. Even Planned Parenthood said the coat hanger was over exagerated. Our founders did not intend what is going on today. They did not want a state religion but did not intend to have religion banned. I am not talking about forcing people to worship my god. I am talking about the ability for me to worship WHERE EVER I AM AT. The Founders did not intend the government to ban religion...ban the bible from public schools....ban prayer. They would not accept that our government should be able to force you to perform abortions or some other service if you are morally opposed. I doubt Jesus would have been for limiting how much a person could drink in New York. Liberals want abortion legal..but think they can tell us in every other way how to live our lives.


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http://radio.foxnews.com/2011/09/28/.../#.UNFSYqUTthA
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