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Old January 7th, 2013, 07:13 AM   #1
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In the past two elections especially minority votes have strongly leaned toward the left because the rights views on immigration and stereotypically racism. Women have also strongly leaned toward the left. The lady two elections where not even close really during election night. Now my question is in your opionion does the Republican Party need to be reformed to win another presidential election?
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Old January 7th, 2013, 07:17 AM   #2
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Absolutely. Their brand is going the way of the Whigs if they don't. They have to address the changing demographics and appeal to a wider swathe of the public to win again.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #3
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Not really, they just need to follow it and stop running people like McCain and Romney. Just let the ramifications of an Obama second election peculate for a while, maybe mid-term, or 2016.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #4
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There is only going to be a continuing diversity problem if they don't address their policy issues that lost them the last one.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 10:30 AM   #5
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I most certainly agree. Back in the '08 election cycle I stated that I thought the Dem candidate would win for the next four terms of the Presidency. I'm halfway there; as* Obama won in 2008 and was just re-elected for a second term.


Along with the demograhics which do not favor the Repubs trendwise; there is also the message problem. I actually consider myself a moderate Centrist; because I agree with both parties on differing issues. The Repub leaning agreements I have usually get waylaid simply because they have a problem getting their message out; and using the proper "messenger" to deliver that message! This has hurt them in national elections and will continue to do so- until they accept this and adress this!


As I stated in another topic question: I don't believe that it's anything Obama or the Dems are doing to the Repubs; it is the Repubs doing it to themselves! My neighbor keeps referring to the Repub predicament to that of the Mafia problems (the Castellamarese Wars) of the 1920's. I'm starting to see the point he's making: that as long as the Repubs continue this "I'm more Conservative than you are" outlook that's driving them in their elections; they will continue to "eat their own"- and thus clear a path for the Dem candidate to navigate the path to victory! This has happened in sevearal elections in which the Repub should have won without a problem.


Platform? OMG, yes the Repubs need* reform here! That's because their platform is straight out of the*1950's in it's*outlook; and generations out of time.


I have not altered my opinion that a Dem would inhabit the White house at least until 2024. That's because I don't see the Repubs making thosechanges that are so badly needed from within themselves and their party. Right now; Hillary Clinton is a lock for the White House in 2016. All she needs to do is make and announce*the decision to run!*
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Old January 7th, 2013, 08:56 PM   #6
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[quote name="Jimmyb" post="451995" timestamp="1357576411"]Not really, they just need to follow it and stop running people like McCain and Romney. Just let the ramifications of an Obama second election peculate for a while, maybe mid-term, or 2016.[/quote] McCain wouldn't have been so bad had he not picked Palin to run with him.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="tylercornwall" data-cid="452410" data-time="1357624581"><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Jimmyb" data-cid="451995" data-time="1357576411">


Not really, they just need to follow it and stop running people like McCain and Romney. Just let the ramifications of an Obama second election peculate for a while, maybe mid-term, or 2016.
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McCain wouldn't have been so bad had he not picked Palin to run with him.</blockquote>


When McCain ran in 2000 he truly was a "maverick"....he was more of a Goldwater Republican and someone I would have supported.


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Instead he got blindsided by the Karl Rove wing of the Party and by the time it was time for him to run again he had bought into the addage of "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". His picking of Sarah Palin for VP just proved how far he had fallen from "maverick" to "stooge"
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[quote name="Nwolfe35" post="452412" timestamp="1357625710"][quote name="tylercornwall" post="452410" timestamp="1357624581"][quote name="Jimmyb" post="451995" timestamp="1357576411"]
Not really, they just need to follow it and stop running people like McCain and Romney. Just let the ramifications of an Obama second election peculate for a while, maybe mid-term, or 2016.
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McCain wouldn't have been so bad had he not picked Palin to run with him.[/quote]
When McCain ran in 2000 he truly was a "maverick"....he was more of a Goldwater Republican and someone I would have supported.
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Instead he got blindsided by the Karl Rove wing of the Party and by the time it was time for him to run again he had bought into the addage of "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". His picking of Sarah Palin for VP just proved how far he had fallen from "maverick" to "stooge"[/quote]

I remember the debate at Rick Warrens's church. Very solid performance. Schooled Obama that night in my opinion.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #9
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[quote name="Jimmyb" post="452415" timestamp="1357626074"][quote name="Nwolfe35" post="452412" timestamp="1357625710"][quote name="tylercornwall" post="452410" timestamp="1357624581"][quote name="Jimmyb" post="451995" timestamp="1357576411"]
Not really, they just need to follow it and stop running people like McCain and Romney. Just let the ramifications of an Obama second election peculate for a while, maybe mid-term, or 2016.[/quote]
McCain wouldn't have been so bad had he not picked Palin to run with him.[/quote]
When McCain ran in 2000 he truly was a "maverick"....he was more of a Goldwater Republican and someone I would have supported.
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Instead he got blindsided by the Karl Rove wing of the Party and by the time it was time for him to run again he had bought into the addage of "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". His picking of Sarah Palin for VP just proved how far he had fallen from "maverick" to "stooge"[/quote]
McCain was a good candidate. Moderate and willing to talk to the other party. Plain was a horrible pick though. He probably chose her to appeal to women but it really backfired on him.
I remember the debate at Rick Warrens's church. Very solid performance. Schooled Obama that night in my opinion.[/quote]
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It doesn't matter WHAT Republicans do. When you are confronted with a *Leftist media bias and baldfaced lies as campaign promises...and devisive, race baiting...and class envy...what choice is there? Besides, remember the voice vote at the DNC??? North Korea votes like that. Republicans need to lie better, that's all.
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