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Old February 6th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #1
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Congressional Incompetence Ends Saturday Mail Service

Thanks To Congressional Incompetence, Saturday Mail Delivery Is History | ThinkProgress


Under the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, Congress has for years forced the USPS to pre-fund 75 years’ worth of pensions for its employees, a requirement not made of any other public or private institution. That means that the Postal Service is footing the bill for employees it hasn’t even hired yet.

The USPS doesn’t actually receive money from the government, but still needs Congressional approval to make any changes to its structure. An analysis in July showed that the USPS, without its pension requirement, would have a $1.5 billion surplus.

I say we get rid of Congressional Republicans, and keep the Post Office.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #2
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Thanks To Congressional Incompetence, Saturday Mail Delivery Is History | ThinkProgress


Under the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, Congress has for years forced the USPS to pre-fund 75 years’ worth of pensions for its employees, a requirement not made of any other public or private institution. That means that the Postal Service is footing the bill for employees it hasn’t even hired yet.

The USPS doesn’t actually receive money from the government, but still needs Congressional approval to make any changes to its structure. An analysis in July showed that the USPS, without its pension requirement, would have a $1.5 billion surplus.

I say we get rid of Congressional Republicans, and keep the Post Office.
DUMB BUTT.. the bill to reform the pensions was not held up in the GOP house.. it was KILLED IN THE SENATE.. wait the SENATE IS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS..

So why are you blaming GOP for ACTIONS OF DEMOCRATS....
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DUMB BUTT.. the bill to reform the pensions was not held up in the GOP house.. it was KILLED IN THE SENATE.. wait the SENATE IS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS..

So why are you blaming GOP for ACTIONS OF DEMOCRATS....
Well, it was a Republican Congress in 2006 that made the stupid pre-funding requirement in the first place.

If Saturday delivery gets eliminated, my own position at the post office will be affected. Right now, I deliver 5 different routes during the week on the regular carrier's day off. If everyone has Saturday off, then I will have to somehow get a single route instead of the set of 5 I now have.
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Well, it was a Republican Congress in 2006 that made the stupid pre-funding requirement in the first place.

If Saturday delivery gets eliminated, my own position at the post office will be affected. Right now, I deliver 5 different routes during the week on the regular carrier's day off. If everyone has Saturday off, then I will have to somehow get a single route instead of the set of 5 I now have.
Yes and at the time it was needed. wait, that was 7 years ago, Democrats have had the power of the purse for 7 looooooooonnnnnngggggggg years. you mean they could not change the law since the times have changed..... hmmmm

thanks for proving my point.
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The Democrats are very good at screwing us to the wall, then shifting the blame elsewhere. That is their stock and trade.

Now I can lump many Republicans into that same boat. They have their share of blame too. It's just that for Democrats, they make bones about it, their mission is to decieve. They wouldn't exist were it not for slight of hand.

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good riddance to saturday mail service, nobody needs it, nobody wants it , except for the mail carriers unions. should have been killed years ago
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Thanks To Congressional Incompetence, Saturday Mail Delivery Is History | ThinkProgress


Under the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, Congress has for years forced the USPS to pre-fund 75 years’ worth of pensions for its employees, a requirement not made of any other public or private institution. That means that the Postal Service is footing the bill for employees it hasn’t even hired yet.

The USPS doesn’t actually receive money from the government, but still needs Congressional approval to make any changes to its structure. An analysis in July showed that the USPS, without its pension requirement, would have a $1.5 billion surplus.

I say we get rid of Congressional Republicans, and keep the Post Office.
You just might be a low information voter if you get your information from leftist or union controlled blog sites.

I read through the entire bill HR 6407 to see where these onerous provisions were and could find nothing in them that suggested the postal service was required to fund pensions or retirement for anyone OTHER than current and retired employees.

Let's also remember that as a unionized work force, the USPS is obligated by their own union agreements and the laws enacted must abide by those agreements.

The simple fact is that these union obligations combined with antiquated systems and modern technology are the real cause of the decline in revenue of the USPS.

In addition, there are many offices that are in remote areas to provide services that are being subsidized by the larger more profitable offices.

What we are seeing is a large behemoth organization that is slow to react to competitive markets burdened by union obligations and Congressional Regulatory oversight.

Eliminating Saturday service is probably a good idea. In addition, the fact that their package delivery is substandard to UPS and FedEx, perhaps it is time they farmed that part off as well. I won't ship anything USPS because it is either lost or damaged if delicate and then they do not honor the insurance of such items and make the claim process difficult, painful and useless.
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In addition, there are many offices that are in remote areas to provide services that are being subsidized by the larger more profitable offices.....
Can you point out, in the Constitution, any requirement for the USPS to turn a profit?

As we continue to re-write the Constitution, without a Constitutional Convention, I guess we can just eliminate the USPS too, slowly, incrementally....

I say, the next day we cut out is Wednesday. It's a dumb day to deliver mail.
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It has nothing to do incompetence.

The Postal Service is drying up and blowing away, for the same reason many sail makers became unemployed after the invention of the internal combustion engine and propeller screw for ships.
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Can you point out, in the Constitution, any requirement for the USPS to turn a profit?

As we continue to re-write the Constitution, without a Constitutional Convention, I guess we can just eliminate the USPS too, slowly, incrementally....

I say, the next day we cut out is Wednesday. It's a dumb day to deliver mail.
So your argument is that regardless of how usueless the post office becomes, it should just be another massive part of the Government sucking out the pockets of the US tax payer?

If this is your argument, why raise postage rates? Why not just make it a free service; after all, there is no Constitutional requirment for it to make a profit.

It can become a major source of new jobs for Obbamunism!!

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